ughh this is so messy...
So of this is Florence, why is she on 1891, 1901 and 1911 with her Aunt Rose Smith nee Lynch and Uncle William who then dies in 1909.
Florence states all the way through that she is born in Salford and then is joined by another child Rose Ann who is also down on the...
Ok, so I now have Florence's birth certificate and its caused me even more confusion.
birth Seventh June 1888 at 2 Richmond Terrace, Salford
Father: John Smith, Labourer
Mother: Fanny Smith formally Suckling (or Buckling?)
on the signature, description box it says: x The mark of...
I think these are the marriages for:
William Henry Smith and Rose Anne Lynch
Patrick Pounder and Florence Smith
Alex McKenna and Rose Anne Smith
Surname Forename(s) Spouse's Surname Spouse's Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Region Reference
I've not ordered any birth certs as can't pinpoint it to the right one. There are loads of Florence Smith's in Salford and although I can find a few on the lancashire parish site and the familysearch org site I can't pinpoint the actual one. Not knowng the parents means I can't be...
Possible answer - sibling of William in prison?
To try and undig my little mystery and to look at it from another angle I have decided to find out as much as possible about the siblings of William Henry Smith, the man who raised the two girls.
For info they are:
Thomas Smith 1855 – ?, John...
And this is the family portrait which has the following in:
From left to right. Daniel McKenna (Denis) son of Rose Anne McKenna, Reg McKenna, wife of Dennis, Rose McKenna nee Smith, Sid Barton (no relation), Alex McKenna (Denis's father), Kath Richards my grandma, Albert (no relation), child...
These pictures are the family. Does make it look like they are sister's doesn't it?
Florence (I look a lot like her)
Kathleen, Florence's daughter
Kathleen's daughter, my mum
Rose Anne McKenna nee Smith
Rose's grand daughter
I know Dave, it's not proving simple to work out at all.
I haven't found anything else on William's parents and siblings. Having Smith as a surname doesn't help either!
I use a variant of research sources and have found various birth possibilities for Florence and this is the site I've been...
thanks for that, my great grandmother Florence Pounder is buried in Southern Cemetary there with her sister Rose Anne McKenna, adoptive or real mum Rose Anne Smith (long story see my thread ??? )and her sister's husband Alex McKenna.
No sign of Rose Anne Smith's husband William Henry Smith...
Hi Dave, thanks for that.
I used to be able to see the banns, must have been a freebie week but can't now.
I keep getting a result but ancestry won't let me see it until I upgrade. might have to wait till october.
makes me wonder now if I have the right family for William...
On ancestry I can see three potential wedding banns for william henry smith and rose ann lynch but can't see the details.
They were married in the end of 1884 in Lancashire, probably Manchester.
Can anyone look this up for me please...
On William's parents and siblings there is a John born abt 1860
These are the cencus records found which I am 99% sure are correct.
1861 Cencus: 4 Claytons Court, All Saints, Newcastle,
James Smith, Head, Age: 30, Birth Year: abt 1831, born Ireland, Occupation: Draper
Bridget Smith, Wife, Age...