1891/1901 census look up please

[marineliferescue]

Hi

Would be grateful if someone could check 1891/1901 census for HENRY BOURNE b 1874 East Hanningfield Essex

Thanking you

 

[davelambert271]

Hi MLR
Sorry, I can find the family in 1871 and 1881, but in 1891 can only find Richard 61 Wid, living by himself in Ilford, and nothing in 1901. (I haven't looked for any marriages)

dave

 

[marineliferescue]

Hi

Thanks for trying, can't find the family myself??

Sue

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

I don't know if this is the Henry you are looking for?

Marriage 1906 - Parish of Islington

Henry Bourne occ coachman
Father Richard occ farmer

Spouse Matilda Agnes Abel

The 1911 census has a Henry Bourne born about 1874 Essex living in the district of Fulham. Another person living with him is a Matilda Bourne.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi,

The 1911 census has a Henry Bourne born about 1874 Essex living in the district of Fulham. Another person living with him is a Matilda Bourne.

Henry's pob is East Haninfield, he was a coachman. He has a son William Stanley born 1908 Fulham

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

I wonder if this is Henry in 1901

BOURNE, Henry Officer Single M 27 1874 Coachman Chelmsford Essex

RG number:RG13 Piece:170 Folio:27 Page:1

Registration District: Islington
Sub District: Upper Holloway
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephen's

Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough:
Address: Islington Workhouse, London

dave

 

[marineliferescue]

Hi to all

Many many thanks for helping me out with the Bourne family.It seems I am on the right person as he did marry Matilda Agnes Abel. I am having problems locating Matilda Agnes Abel who was born 1876 St Saviours Southwark. Found her on 1901 census as a servant im Hampstead but cannot find her on 1891/1881 census. Her father was called William and her mother Matilda. Hope someone can help me out

Take care

 

[davelambert271]

1881 England Census
Name: Agnes Abel
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Abel
Mother's name: Matilda Abel
Gender: Female
Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Derby Buildings
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane

Piece: 196
Folio: 60
Page Number: 24

William Abel 27 Hackney, Cabman
Matilda Abel 25 Woolwich, Kent
Agnes Abel 4 Southwark, Surrey
Eliza Angell 27 Greenwich, serv

dave

 

[davelambert271]

1891 England Census
Name: Matilda Auel - Bad image, but is Abel
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Auel
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West

Piece: 152
Folio: 131
Page Number: 3

William Auel 37 Hackney, Cab Proprieter
Matilda Auel 35 Woolwich
William L Auel 14 Southwark Errand boy
Agnes Auel 14 Southwark, Mantle makers App (Dress)

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi MLF
this could help you progress. Eliza Angell is living with William and Matilda in 1881. This looks like them in 1861 (ages and birthplaces)

1861 England Census
Name: Matilda M Angell
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Angell
Mother's name: Frances J Angell
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Farnborough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chiselhurst

Piece: 464 Folio: 212 Page Number: 22

John Angell 36 Fulham Police Constable
Frances J Angell 29 Chatham
Eliza S Angell 7 Greenwich
Matilda M Angell 5 Woolwich
Sophia A Angell 4 Farnham
John S Angell 2 Farnham
William V Angell 9 MO Farnham

but why marry in macclesfield??

Marriages Dec 1875

ABEL William Macclesfield 8a 185
ANGELL Matilda Mary A Macclesfield 8a 185
Clowes Emma Macclesfield 8a 185
POWNALL Samuel Macclesfield 8a 185

birth

Name: Matilda Mary Ann Angell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1855
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 568

1871 England Census

Name: Matilda Angell
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Angell
Mother's name: Frances Angell
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst

Piece: 878 Folio: 113 Page Number: 7

John Angell 43
Frances Angell 39
Eliza Angell 18
Matilda Angell 16
Sophia Angell 14
John Angell 12
William Angell 10
Thomas Angell 9
Emma Angell 7
Matthew Angell 5

dave

 

[marineliferescue]

Hi

Once again many thanks for taking the trouble to help out. Can't understand why MAtilda Agnes Abel married William Abel in MAcclesfield (1875) as William was born in Hackney. Maybe Matilda was in MAcclesfield @ 1875 with her family and her father may have been posted up in Chershire for a while (do we know John Abel's profession in 1871, in 1861 he was in the police, but why was William Abel there. Does anyone know if there are on line police records for 1860s/70s that I could check for John Angell?

Take care
Sue

 

[p.risboy]

Hi

Once again many thanks for taking the trouble to help out. Can't understand why MAtilda Agnes Abel married William Abel in MAcclesfield (1875) as William was born in Hackney. Maybe Matilda was in MAcclesfield @ 1875 with her family and her father may have been posted up in Chershire for a while (do we know John Abel's profession in 1871, in 1861 he was in the police, but why was William Abel there. Does anyone know if there are on line police records for 1860s/70s that I could check for John Angell?

Take care
Sue

Hi Sue.

If he was in Policeman in London, there may be records held.

Contact here - http://www.met.police.uk/history/archives.htm

I have had some very good results in the past, but on occasions nothing is found.

Steve.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

John seems to have spent his policing days in Kent. He is in the civil parish of Foots Cray, registration district Bromley in 1851.

Hope this link is helpful, if not they may be ale to point you in the right direction.

 

[marineliferescue]

Hi

Many thanks for the suggested websites will certainly check them out

Ta