1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

[DaveHam9]

Glebe or Leichhardt/Belmore/Canterbury ??
WHITE Elizabeth
WHITE Samuel Robert

Glebe/Woollahra/Paddington ??
WHITEMAN Edward Butcher

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave, - On Whiteman.
Aust Birth Index has Edward Butcher Whiteman b 1881 Reg Richmond River NSW to Albert Whiteman & Sophia Catherine Meurer - Reg no: 26059

died 1928 Mudgee NSW - Reg 14396 - parents correct

Sands Directory has a Edward Whiteman in 1912 at 73 Bridge rd, Glebe

1915 Sands Directory has a E.B. Whiteman at 38 Gurner st, Paddington.

NSW Deceased Estate has his death 30 Sept 1928 Paddington a Tram Driver.

Marriage to Ida C Wallace 1905 Casino NSW - Reg no: 1018

Ida Caroline Wallace b 9 Nov 1879 to Joseph Wallace & Louisa Whiteman - died 18 June 1913 NSW.

Richmond River Express & Casino Kyogle Advertiser Tues 24 June 1913 - Deaths
WHITEMAN - On the 17th June 1913 Ida Whiteman, wife of Edward Whiteman, late of Casino.
regards Val

 

[Bootzy]

Edward & Ida Whiteman's children:

22851/1906 WHITEMAN LOUISA A - EDWARD & IDA C - CASINO - died 1906 Casino.

34013/1907 WHITEMAN ALBERT - EDWARD B & IDA C - CASINO Unavailable - died 1909 Casino NSW - Reg no: 4993

35277/1909 WHITEMAN EDWARD J - EDWARD B & IDA C - CASINO - died 1948 Fitzroy Vic age 39 - Reg No: 13399
Find a Grave has him buried Dec 1948 Box Hill Cemetery

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks val.

BMD has his death as 29th.

From a tree I presume:

Name: Edward Butcher WHITEMAN
Birth: 19 Feb 1881 Casino, NSW
Death: 29 Sep 1928 Travensore (?) Private Hospital Queen St Woollahra Municipality

Not 1926 Wentworth - Woollahra


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth 4524/1878 WALLACE IDA CAROLINE - JOSEPH - LOUISA - GLEBE ** 9 Nov 1878

Died in Newington Asylum ?

Death 7244/1913 WHITEMAN IDA C - JOSEPH - LOUISA - GRANVILLE ** 17 Jun 1913

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 18 June 1913 p.12
DEATHS
WHITEMAN.-June 17, 1913, Ida Caroline, dearly-loved wife of Eddie Whiteman, aged 34 years. Interred at Rookwood.

Dates from BMD different. I'm not saying which are correct. I've found lots of errors in the index.

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Augusta Louisa Whiteman
Christening Date: 8 Sep 1906
Christening Place: Casino, NSW
Whiteman

Name: Albert Whiteman
Christening Date: 31 Aug 1907
Christening Place: Casino, NSW
Edward Butcher Whiteman & Ida Caroline Wallace

Name: Edward Joseph Whiteman
Christening Date: 16 Oct 1909
Christening Place: Casino, NSW
Edward Butcher Whiteman & Ida Wallace

 

[Bootzy]

Sunday Times - 30 Sept 1928

DEATHS. WHITEMAN— September 29. 1928. At a private hospital. Woollahra, Edward B. Whiteman, beloved father of Teddie, and son of Mrs. S. C. Whiteman, late of Kensington. Aged 47 years. See Monday's Herald for funeral announcement.

Funeral and family names
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16498200?searchTerm=edward whiteman&searchLimits=l-decade=192|||l-year=1928|||l-month=10

regards Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

I had the funeral but not the death notice.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Just found this:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 20 May 1893 p.8
Special Advertisements.
DEATH.-WALLACE.-May 20, 1893, the dearly-beloved wife of Joseph Wallace, at her late residence, Currency Lass Hotel, Glebe Point-road.

 

[Bootzy]

SMH - 19 June 1947 - Sophia Catherine Whiteman's death

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18031101?searchTerm=Sophia whiteman&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=194

Ida Caroline Wallace b 1879 Goulburn to Joseph Wallace and Louisa Whiteman (1850 - 1893 - her parents James Butchers Whiteman & Rosanna/Rosina Prior.

Edward Butcher Whiteman son of Albert Whiteman who was son of James Butchers Whiteman - makes Ida & Edward cousins...

Ida's Mum Louisa and Edward's Dad = brother & sister.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - RANDWICK - KENSINGTON POLLING-PLACE
3309 WHITEMAN Albert James, Duke-street, tailor
3310 WHITEMAN Charles Nelson, Duke-street, draper
3311 WHITEMAN Netta, Duke-street, domestic duties
3312 WHITEMAN Sophia Catherine, Duke-street, domestic duties


No sign of a birth reg for Sophia. I searched 1855 - 1860 using just sophia and ernest and just sophia and augusta.

Perhaps born Germany or bv 1858.

Marriage 1733/1860 MEURERR ERNEST - HELSSER AUGUSTA - GRAFTON ** 18 Aug

Naturalisation
MEURER Christian Frederick Germany 24 Nov 1857 2 79 - [4/1201] 129
MEURER Ernest Germany 13 Mar 1861 3 27 - [4/1202] 130
MEURER Ernest Germany 23 Aug 1861 3 30 - [4/1202] 130
MEURER Otto Germany 25 May 1877 5 107 - [4/1204] 130


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Armin
of oldenbury, e sommer, master, burthen 624 tons
from the port of cape of good hope to sydney, new south wales, 19th november, 1858

174 male adults german passengers intermediate
emigrants
86 female adults german passengers intermediate
emigrants
12 boys german passengers intermediate
emigrants
18 girls german passengers intermediate
emigrants

 

[Bootzy]

Meurer

Death Cert from a Tree..
Ernest Louis Meurer died 27 June 1900 at 9 Pawley St Sydney, a Bootmaker age 70 born Hessen-Cassel Germany.
40 yrs in NSW has not 1st name for father - Meurer a clergyman & Susannah not surname.
Marriage Gottingen Prussia age 24 to Augusta Hesecke.
Their children>
Sophia (Whiteman) 43, Frederica 41, John J 40, Henry J 38, Ernestina (Telford) 36, Eva E (Hudson) 34, Agnes (Hart) 32, Francisca (Telford) 29, Ernest 26, Living none deceased.
signed: ET Hart son-in-law 2 Young St Annandale
Buried C of E Cemetery Rookwood 28 June 1900

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Name soon changed after arrival from Meurerr to Meurer.

The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) - Saturday 13 November 1858 p.2
...
The Armin, from Bremen, touched at the Cape of Good
Hope, and left again on the 24th September. She went into
quarantine last night, there being a case of small pox on board.

I can't find a list of passengers.

 

[Bootzy]

Found this on a Tree.
Relationship: great, great grandparents Ernest Louis Meurer Born: 1829. Hessen-Kassel, Germany Occupation: bootmaker Died: 27 Jun 1900, Sydney, NSW Married: 18 Aug 1860, South Grafton, NSW to - Augusta Heisser* Born: 1832, Göttingen, Germany Died: 15 Mar 1908, Sydney, NSW * Various spellings of Augusta’s maiden name exist in different documents. Others include Helsser, Heipsen, Heiseke and Hesecke
Ernest Meurer, his wife Augusta and eldest daughter, Sophia, migrated to Australia on board the Armin, the last of the ships organised by William Kirchner to bring German settlers to Australia. The Armin left Bremen, Germany, at its port Bremerhaven on 5 Jul 1858, and after a stop at the Cape of Good Hope, arrived at Sydney on 8 Dec 1858. On board were 255 German passengers, listed by the Harbour Master as: immigrants from Germany; 174 male adults, 86 female adults, 12 boys and 18 girls. Alas individual records were lost in WW2 bombing of Bremen. The Armin was a 624ton clipper under the command of Captain E. Sommer. By 1860 Ernest Meurer and his family were settled in Grafton and a boot and shoemaker by trade he worked for John Chapman, soon managing his South Grafton branch. Later he took over this business himself. It was here at South Grafton in 1860 that Ernest married Augusta, although it appears that they were betrothed but not married in Germany (because of the cost) and had a daughter born before their emigration.
Another daughter, Frederica and a son, John were born and extended the family and Ernest and Augusta soon became a part of the well-established German community along the Clarence River. Ernest became a British subject in 1861, this being a requirement before purchasing Crown Land and voting. He moved his South Grafton business to Cowan St, then Skinner St. Later Ernest and family moved to Casino, then Ballina where he was bankrupted around 1886. Later Ernest and Augusta moved to inner city Sydney living in several suburbs, including Annandale and Surrey Hills, where they spent their final years. Son John was another bootmaker living and working nearby. In 1888 at Ballina, our great grandmother, younger daughter Agnes married Edward Hart, another bootmaker and the son of Thomas, himself a bootmaker who along with wife Agnes Mary had been born in Ireland but moved to Scotland as a child and grew up there before he married and migrated to Australia. What an odd melting pot of cultures the Clarence area was in the 19th century

NSW BMD has marriage Ernest Meurer to Augusta Helsser1860 Grafton NSW on Reg no: 1733

regards Val

 

[Bootzy]

Samuel Robert White.
Samuel Robert White married Elizabeth Harold 1882 Hartley NSW Reg no: 4777
death 1938 Burwood NSW - father Robert

1907 Sands Directory has Samuel R White at 11 Balmain rd Leichhardt

Samuel & Elizabeth's children:
21180/1884 WHITE SAMUEL R H - SAMUEL R & ELIZABETH - LITHGOW - his death
31241/1966 WHITE SAMUEL ROBERT - SAMUEL ROBERT & ELIZABETH - RYDE - married Honora M Welsh 1904 Sydney - reg no: 5374 and children:
7248/1905 WHITE SAMUEL J H - SAMUEL R & HANORAH - REDFERN
23837/1906 WHITE MAY - SAMUEL R & NORAH M - GLEBE
24389/1908 WHITE ROMA - SAMUEL R & HONORA M - GLEBE - she died 1908.
26233/1910 WHITE LORNA E - SAMUEL R & HONORAH M - GLEBE

19452/1890 WHITE HENRY J H - SAMUEL R & ELIZABETH - LITHGOW - his death
39788/1970 WHITE HENRY JAMES H - SAMUEL & ELIZABETH - BURWOOD

31141/1897 WHITE EDWIN F H - SAMUEL R & ELIZABETH - GLEBE - his death
3103/1899 WHITE EDWIN F H SAMUEL R ELIZABETH REDFERN

Elizabeth death 1945 Glebe - James Harold & Elizabeth Sharman.. her sister Esther married a Joel Bebb 25 April 1882 in SMH 29 April 1907

Joel died 1908
Found a Immigration deposit journal entry for Oct 1880
James Harrold 45 Ironworker + no name for wife 43, Elizabeth age 19 and Esther age 17 13 Black St Middlesboro on Tees Yorks Uk passage paid by Joel Bebb - obviously no one came as another put through from Joel is just for Lizzie 21 and Esther 18 from Yorkshire arrived on "Nineveh" 22 Sep 1881

regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

I'll have a look at that when I return. I'm going to install a new monitor and not sure what cable is going to fit.

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Good luck with that.. just had to replace pc's and new ones have Windows 8.1 and what a learning curve that is....

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

It's installed but it's so WHITE I'll have to learn how to adjust the settings. It's 21.5 instead of 19.5 inches wide screen and resolution is higher so text is smaller. I'll have to adjust that too.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 1417/1932 WHITE SAMUEL R - BEBB ESTHER - ROCKDALE


HARROLD Esther 18 Nineveh 1881 Sydney Reels 2141, 2492
HARROLD Lizzie 22 Nineveh 1881 Sydney Reels 2141, 2492

Births Sep Qtr 1861
HARROLD Esther Stockton 10a 29