1913 Electoral Roll - YOUNG

[DaveHam9]

Newtown
YOUNG John


Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Potential take your pick with that name, Dave.. :biggrin:

NSW E/R 1913 Newton - Erskineville
Young John Joseph, clerk
Young John Walter, engineer
Young Mary
Young Nora, clerk
Young Sarah
Young Vera, saleswoman
Young Walter Joseph, driver
Young William Joseph, blacksmith
All Rochford Street.

Newtown - Wilson Street
Young John, retired
Young Mary Jane
1 Leamington Avenue

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I don't have the marriage or a death yet for Mary Jane.

Death 22372/1919 YOUNG JOHN - JAMES ISABELLA - NEWTOWN

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 13 Dec 1919 p.12
DEATHS
YOUNG.-December 3, 1919, at his residence, John, beloved husband of Mary Jane, and loved father of Isabella Bramble and John T. Young, aged 68 years. (Late of Loco. Department, Eveleigh.)

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death YOUNG MARY J 5506/1920 JOHN ELIZABETH - NEWTOWN

YOUNG Mary Jane Death notice 02JUN1920 Death 60 late of Newtown Sydney Morning Herald 03JUN1920

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 3 Jun 1920 p.6
DEATHS
YOUNG.-June 2, 1920, at 7 Camden-street, Newtown, Mary Jane, relict of the late John Young, late of Loco. Dept., Eveleigh, and of Leamlngton-avenue, Newtown, aged 60 years.

 

[DaveHam9]

Three possible marriages in NSW for a John YOUNG to a Mary J.


I don't have the arrival of any of the Young family.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 20 May 1865 p.9
MARRIAGES
YOUNG - HENRY.-May 3rd, by special license, at St. Ann's, Ryde, by the Rev. G. E. Turner, George Edward, third son of Mr. James Young, of 12 Richmond-terrace, South Lambeth, London, S., to Annie, eldest daughter of Mr. James Henry, Ryde, Parramatta River, and granddaughter of the late Rev. W. Henry, of the London Missionary Society.

 

[DaveHam9]

James YOUNG & Isabell Young FORD
24 Jun 1835 St Andrew's Holborn, Middlesex
Batch: M013732

No parents on the banns image.


1851
HO107 Piece 1479 Folio 78 Page 43
Civil Parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Westminster
Sub-RD: St John
ED:
Address:
James Young Head Mar 42 Piano Forte Maker Scotland
Isabel Young Wife Mar 40 Ford Northumberland
James Young son 14 St John Westminster
Isabel Young dau 12 St John Westminster
John Young son 8 St John Westminster
George Young son 6 St John Westminster
Margaret Young dau 4 St John Westminster
Andrew Young son 2 St John Westminster

YOUNG, GEORGE EDWARD - FORD
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01 Page 390

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't see an arrival for George that fits for age.

... and came to Sydney in his youth.

John also arrived. Don't know yet where and when he married Mary Jane.

 

[horse]

Arrival after this..

1861
County: Surrey
RD: Lambeth
Sub-RD: Kennington Second
ED: 23; Piece: 362; Folio: 33; Page: 6

Geoff

 

[horse]

If this is George in 1867, it puts the arrival at 1861-1867 for George at least..

Samson Dir 1867:
Partial copy for Id purposes..

 

[horse]

Just noticed the 1865 marriage,

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So far I only know of John and George in NSW. Don't know when and where John married.

First birth after 1851 in index with mother = Mary J
Several with a Mary A and others with just Mary.

Birth YOUNG ALEXANDER 10496/1859 JOHN MARY J - NEWCASTLE

Death YOUNG ALEXANDER 4297/1859 JOHN MARY J - NEWCASTLE

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Two known children

Marriage 14886/1911 BRAMBLE JAMES - YOUNG ISABELLA - REDFERN

Death BRAMBLE ISABELLA 16582/1953 JACK JANE MARY - LIVERPOOL

Death YOUNG JOHN THOMAS 9059/1955 JOHN MARY JANE - CAMPSIE


Birth YOUNG ISABELLA 17157/1881 JOHN MARY JANE - HARTLEY * west of the mountains but not as far as Bathurst

Birth YOUNG JOHN T 21731/1885 JOHN MARY J - LITHGOW * north of Hartley


Marriage 2580/1880 YOUNG JOHN - WARREN MARY J - BATHURST

So, did John and George arrive together. George 2 years older but a big difference in age at marriage.

 

[horse]

So, did John and George arrive together. George 2 years older but a big difference in age at marriage.

Even in that 4 year window there are still a number of possibilities

Geoff

 

[horse]

Nothing convincing..

George Young
Age: 21
Arrival Date: 7 Jun 1863
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Wellesley
Nationality: English
[Looks as though he is with a Henry [20] both traders]

George Young
Departure: Brisbane
Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 25 Mar 1862
Vessel Name: Samson
[On his own - no other info]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

They may not have arrived together. Perhaps John was in England in 1871.

I'm off to local library so catch you later Geoff.

Dave

 

[horse]

OK, Dave... Speak later.

Geoff

 

[horse]

1871
County: London
RD: Lambeth
Sub-RD: Kennington First
ED: 42; Piece: 675; Folio: 35; Page: 21

James Young 62 [Piano forte maker]
Isabel Young 60
Andrew Young 22 son [can't read occ]
Isabel Riddell 22 dau [Annuitant]
George A Riddell 5 g'son
Ellen Pharnock 17 servant
Mary Ann Auston 53 lodger
Sarah Gregory 75 lodger

Geoff

EDIT: Isabel Riddell, age should = 32y

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

John and George for sure in NSW.

Isabel and Andrew stayed in England.

Don't know about James and Margaret.

??
Death YOUNG JAMES HENRY 6012/1937 JAMES ISABELLA - SYDNEY

YOUNG James Henry Death notice 07MAY1937 Death 52 at Sydney Hospital, late of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 08MAY1937

Not that one - age is way out.

Dave