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A Lynch connection ?

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Hi,
This trail starts in Sydney, and points to Scotland in the early 1800's.

Sydney, 1908:
Ida Maude Dixon, née Sands, buys into a new subdivision in Hunters Hill, with a mortgage from Elizabeth Ann Lynch, widow. (Ida's husband, Harry Vernon Dixon, buys the adjoining blocks the following year).

It's possible there's a connection between the two women.

On Ida's side:
birth NSW #11107/1874, Sands Ida Maude;
father's given names, William; mother's given names, Marcella Lynch.
This is where the question of a family connection comes up.

They marry in 1860: NSW 984/1860, William Sands, Marcella Lynch Anderson.

There are no births in NSW for any Marcella Anderson 1810-1850.
A quick in to $$Ancestry gives an arrival:
Name:Marcella Anderson
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1832, Age:22
Arrival Date:7 Jul 1854 Arrival Port:Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port:Liverpool
Ship:Hilton
Nationality:Scottish

PROV Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
this Marcella Anderson arrives with her family: sister Caroline, and mother Mary and father Alexr (?Alexander) Anderson, who must have married around 1831, likely in Scotland.
No Lynch in these arrival names, but it's a middle name.


On the other side is Elizabeth Ann Lynch, the mortgagor: she is proprietor of the Ship Inn at Circular Quay, so she's not short of a quid.
Her late husband was David J Lynch; they married in 1874, NSW 948/1874.

If David J was born in NSW, he's probably this one:
V1846616 63/1846, Lynch, David; father's given names, William; mother's given names, Ellen.

There's no William Lynch born in NSW before 1838, and that one's too young to father David J.
There's no eligible match in Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871, and PROV has no other pre-1846 records.

My logic says look first for 'Lynch' in Mary and Alexr (?Alexander) Anderson—maybe marriage record, or birth records. Then see if there's a way to trace William Lynch back. Can anyone assist?

Meantime, will get Marcella's marriage certificate, which may corroborate arrival and give birth details.

Cheers

Bundy2.
 
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Hi Bundy,

Not sure if any of this is of any help but i'll post anything i find and disregard anything that is of no use.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Wednesday 13 June 1860

SANDS—ANDERSON—May 28th, by special license, at St. Paul's Church, Redfern, by the Rev. Robert Taylor, Mr. William, eldest son of Mr. John Sands, Cambrian Vale, near Goulburn, to Miss Marcella Lynch, fifth daughter of Mr. James Anderson, Redfern, Sydney.
 

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Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931)
Saturday 21 January 1893
LYNCH.— January 20, at his residence, the Ship Inn, Circular Quay, David Joseph Lynch, aged 46 years, eldest son of the late William Lynch, of Paddington.
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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Friday 21 May 1880
LYNCH.-May 20, at his residence, Greenwood Tree Hotel, South Head Road, Paddington, Mr. William Lynch, aged 63 years.
3832/1880 LYNCH WILLIAM WILLIAM DIED PADDINGTON PADDINGTON
 

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Obituary for Marcella Lynch Sands

etc etc The late Mrs. Sands was born in London, and was a daughter of the late Mr. James Anderson, solicitor, etc etc

Well worth a read of the whole article

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...A AND "sands"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=sands

Burial
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCQ-1QF

Baptism

Name: Marcella Lynch Anderson
Christening Date: 27 Oct 1839
Christening Place: SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1839
Father's Name: James Anderson
Mother's Name: Eleanor

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQY3-XG3
 
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1841 census
They were in Middlesex. All kids born Middlesex.

Name: James Anderson
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Where born: Scotland

Name: Eleanor Anderson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Where born: Scotland

James Anderson 35
Eleanor Anderson 30
Lucy Anderson 7
Sarah Anderson 5
Ella Anderson 3
Marcella Anderson 1

Ok so got the parents born in Scotland. You probably know most of this anyway, but its amusing me :biggrin:

I cant find a marriage for James and Eleanor but it wouldnt surprise me if her maiden name was Lynch.
 
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You have Paddies.:eek::biggrin::biggrin:

1851 census.

James Anderson
Age: 47
abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse - Eleanor Anderson

Born - Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: St Mary Whitechapel
Middlesex

Address - Hereford Terrace, Tower Hamlets. (I think it says Hereford.:confused: ).

Occupation - Solicitors Clerk. (Clerk in 1841 census).

Reg- Dist- Whitechapel
Sub-reg Dist -Whitechapel Church
ED-1
Household Schedule Number: 149
Piece-1545
Folio-398
Page-25

James Anderson 47. b. Dublin.
Eleanor Anderson 41. b.Athlone, Ireland.
Mary Jane Anderson 19. b.Dublin.
Sarah Anne Anderson 15. b.Stepney, Middx
Ella Elizh Anderson 12. b. Stepney.
Marcella L Anderson 10. b. Stepney.
Anne A Anderson 8. b.Whitechapel, Middx.
Eleanor Anderson 4. b. Whitechapel.
Margaret Anderson under 2 Months. b.Whitechapel.

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London baptisms.

Marcella Lynch Anderson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1839
Father -James Anderson. Occupation - Clerk.
Mother -Eleanor Anderson
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Living at Mile End, Old Town at the time of baptism. (As in 1841 census).:biggrin:

Birth Reg

Oct-Nov-Dec 1839
Registration District: Stepney
London
Volume - 2
Page - 423

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London baptisms.

Margaret Anderson.
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1851
Father - James Anderson. Occupation. Attorney. :eek:
Mother - Eleanor Anderson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

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London Baptisms.

Ella Elizabeth Anderson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1838
Father - James Anderson. Occupation - Clerk.:)
Mother - Eleanor Anderson
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers



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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Friday 21 May 1880

THE FRIENDS of the Deceased Mr. WILLIAM LYNCH are respectfully invited to his Funeral; to move from his late residence, the Greenwood Tree Hotel, Paddington, THIS DAY (Friday), at half-past 2 o'clock, to the Cemetery, Waverley. JAMES CURTIS,

THE FRIENDS of DAVID and JOHN LYNCH are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of their deceased FATHER, William Lynch; to move from his late resi- dence Greenwood Tree Hotel, South Head Road, Paddington, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 2 o'clock, to the Cemetery, Waverley.
THE FRIENDS of ADAM NEWTON are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his deceased FATHER IN-LAW, Mr William Lynch; to leave his late residence, Greenwood Tree Hotel, Paddington; THIS (Friday) AFTER- NOON, at half-past 2 o'clock, for Waverley Cemetery.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ynch"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=+william+lynch

NSW death index
3832/1880 LYNCH WILLIAM WILLIAM DIED PADDINGTON PADDINGTON

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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Monday 21 May 1894

THE FRIENDS of tho late Mr. DAVID LYNCH, of tho Ship Inn, Circular QUAY, are kindlv invlted to attend the funeral of his late beloved MOTHEP. Mrs "Eleanor Lynch , to move from the residence of her son-in- law, Mr W H Stephens Greenwood Tree Hotel Oxford Street, Paddington THIS (Monday AFTERNOON at half-past 2 o'clock for "Waverly Cemetery C Kinsela

10299/1894 LYNCH ELEANOR HUGH PHOEBE PADDINGTON
 

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I cant find any connection with the Lynch name for the 2 families. Im not saying there isnt one just i cant find it if there is.

There were a lot of Lynch's around so maybe it was a coincidence.
 
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Gibbo, and Steve, hi,

Thanks again to you both for the detective work, it will come in handy. I had just looked at the bare bones of the genealogies, hadn't fleshed any of this out. Great.

Agree, Lynch more likely to be a coincidence—if there is a connection, it isway back in the old country and a bit remote for all that. Which leaves the question:
How does Ida Maude come to know the proprietor of the Ship Inn?

Maybe she works there?—still waiting on the marriage certificate to see if there's an occupation listed for Ida: looking, I guess, to support/contradict a possible courtship narrative:

Harry Dixon, promoted from the scientific department of CSR at Pyrmont to head office at 1 O'Connell Street, walks two blocks down to the Quay after work, and stops for a beer at the Ship. On the ferry home to Drummoyne, he realises he's much taken with a certain barmaid...


cheers

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Hey Bundy, is that Ida in the photo? Pretty girl who ever she is anyway.

The marriage cert. should also note their addresses, maybe they lived close to each other.
 
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Yep this is Ida.

maybe they lived close to each other
There's a Goulburn connection: should've checked it out it earlier, but I still would've wondered about Lynch.

Ida's father is a stock'n'station agent in Goulburn.

Harry's father, Edward, gives "merchant" and "Goulburn" on the marriage certificate.

And Harr'ys four eldest siblings, Mary, Maggie, Edward and James, all have their births registered in Goulburn.

And, later, Harry's father Edward dies suddenly in Moss Vale: we don't know of any connection there—but it is on the railway line to Goulburn.

Here's Ida and Marcella... taken in Goulburn, no date, I'm guessing she's turning 21, which would make it around 1895.


Cheers

Bundy2
 

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