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Admitting defeat with several candidates.

benny1982

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Sometimes with genealogy we may have to admit defeat if an ancestor died before the census era and you have a rough idea when they were born, but there are about 5 or 6 baptisms, and any one of them are candidates. We may be able to eliminate one or 2 of them but if their parents never seemed to leave a will, it can be impossible to determine which, if any of them, is your ancestor. If you find the witnesses to marriages were just friends or regular witnesses (rector, churchwarden, parish constable etc), it can leave you stumped.

I have a Hannah Moss born c1740 in Essex, who wed in 1765, and there are about 9 of them born 1730-1750 in Essex. Witnesses to her marriage have not thrown up any leads and no age at burial was given.

Also, lots of Suffolk people moved into Essex in the 1700s, so they may have come from Suffolk, or elsewhere.
 

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I have a Mary Veacher in my tree who married in 1743 Eton Buckinghamshire, I actually have her death because it says wife of John Atkins. But there isn't one single other Veacher living in the county of Buckinghamshire at that time, so I don't know where she appeared from.

Oddly enough the only place I've seen the name is in Suffolk, but there isn't any evidence that she was born there!!

Amanda
 

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Its that age old lie, that people didn't travel very far. :rolleyes:

If they traveled the length and breadth of the UK, in the census years. It's stands to reason, that they traveled before the census.(y)

If it wasn't for the Census, I would never have known that my Gt Uncle and his family, went to Edinburgh, via Manchester and Liverpool, and died in Edinburgh.:)

Amanda......do you have the actual transcript of the Veacher marriage. Not the rubbish thing that Ancestry throws out to look at. BucksFHS and FMP usually have the details..:unsure:

Do you have an image of the marriage.?

Steve.:)

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Looking at settlement records for Rochford in Essex, 1760-1820, many of the non Essex people came from Suffolk but some came from Norfolk, Stafford, London and Kent, and Warwickshire.

I may have made a breakthrough on my Matthew Bradford born c1764 in Cambs or Suffolk. The 1765 one at Westley Waterless can be discarded. I think my Matthew is related to a Henry Bradford, born 1752 in Dullingham, Cambs who lived in Barling, Essex, just a couple of miles from Southchurch. Henry's 2nd marriage in 1807 in Rochford was witnessed by a Ann Topsfield, whose niece later wed Matthew's son Matthew Bradford Jnr. Henry is subject to a poor law record stating he was from Dullingham.
 

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Its that age old lie, that people didn't travel very far. :rolleyes:

If they traveled the length and breadth of the UK, in the census years. It's stands to reason, that they traveled before the census.(y)

If it wasn't for the Census, I would never have known that my Gt Uncle and his family, went to Edinburgh, via Manchester and Liverpool, and died in Edinburgh.:)

Amanda......do you have the actual transcript of the Veacher marriage. Not the rubbish thing that Ancestry throws out to look at. BucksFHS and FMP usually have the details..:unsure:

Do you have an image of the marriage.?

Steve.:)

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They did travel Steve and in this case I would have thought she had, but I don't have any evidence and FMP doesn't have the original on their site no one seems to have it. The transcription of the Parish register is on there and all it says is they both reside in Eton.

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I have a William Inkpen who wed in Oxford in 1765. Inkpen is a surname found in Sussex, Dorset and Kent, and no incidence prior to 1765. The marriage license says he was over 21 and a college servant. Probably travelled to Oxford for work.

The further back I go with my Essex lot, the more Suffolk and Kent lines I seem to find, and London. Same with my Oxfordshire lot having Berks, Bucks, Gloucs and Northants ancestors, and some distant Wilts.
 

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I've had Aliens drop out from nowhere, spawn children, then headed back to the planet that they came from. No baptism or burial/death. No Will, not a thing that that gives their origins, nor their passing.

Makes me wonder ..........because some people say to me........"What planet are you from". Maybe one day I'll find find out. :alien::alien:

Steve.:):alien:

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If the father was in the army or a mariner, they will have travelled a lot. Also Essex is a coastal county, so had many trade links with London, Suffolk, Norfolk, up North the lot.
 
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