Agnes MALCOLM

[DaveHam9]

This one is ruled out:

Agnes MALCOLM & R. GLEN
Marriage: 1 Jun 1860 Largs, Ayr


1861
Glasgow Barony
Address: 9 Scotia St
Robert Glen 33 Shipping clerk Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire
Agness 23 Largs, Ayrshire


Death 1871 GLEN Agnes (MALCOLM) age 34 Lanark

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Agnes born abt 1831 Largs is with family in 1841:

1841
Piece: SCT1841/602 Place: Largs -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Largs Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Largs
Folio: 4 Page: 27
Address: Nelson Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOM John M 45 Weaver Ayrshire ? [Paisley]
MALCOM Margaret F 20 Ayrshire
MALCOM Janet F 18 Ayrshire
MALCOM William M 15 Weaver Apprentice Ayrshire
MALCOM John M 12 Ayrshire
MALCOM Agnes F 10 Ayrshire
MALCOM Mary F 8 Ayrshire

 

[DaveHam9]

Jump forward and Agnes is with brother William. Listed as a widow but back to using her maiden name. ???

1891
Piece 646 Folio 52 Page 12
Registration District: Govan
Civil Parish: Govan
Municipal Borough:
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Fleming Street, Govan
MALCOLM, William Head Married M 65 1826 Baker Largs, Ayrshire
MALCOLM, Janet Wife Married F 65 1826 Largs, Ayrshire
MALCOLM, Agnes Sister Widow F 60 1831 Domestic Servant Largs, Ayrshire
MALCOLM, Janet Carmichael Niece F 12 1879 Scholar Paisley, Renfrewshire


So far none of them have been found in 1901.

 

[DaveHam9]

And of course there are others:

Agnes b. abt 1832 Largs and another b. abt 1833 Largs - neither fit in my tree. There are trees for those two but not for my Agnes.

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

Are you sure Agnes married?

Not sure about this one, dressmaker and back in Ayr

1901
Reg No: 602/1
RD: Largs
Civil Parish: Largs
Address: Townhead Close
ED: 4
Page: 26; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1901_231

Agnes Malcom 68 [b. Largs, dressmaker]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Dave

Are you sure Agnes married?

Not sure about this one, dressmaker and back in Ayr

1901
Reg No: 602/1
RD: Largs
Civil Parish: Largs
Address: Townhead Close
ED: 4
Page: 26; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1901_231

Agnes Malcom 68 [b. Largs, dressmaker]

Geoff

:biggrin:

Well, I know it happens that they revert to maiden name but perhaps you can confirm that census says 'widow'.

Re the one you just posted there is a tree that says that one was born 1833 to John MALCOLM & Jean HILL and that she was a dressmaker all her life and never married so not my Agnes. The tree has her address for all previous census.

Would you like all the addresses so you can rule them out?

 

[horse]

It's just that there is an Agnes in 51, 61 and 71 she was b. 1831 and a domestic of some kind.

None of them give a marital status

 

[DaveHam9]

The one born 1833 - mother Jean HILL

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker. Living With her Uncle Archibald Malcolm
1851 103 Crown Street Gorbals, Lanarkshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1861 6 McKechnie's Close Largs, Ayrshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1871 6 McKechnie's Close Largs, Ayrshire

Residence
1881 24 Elderslie Street Anderston Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire

Residence: Visitor To Maggie And Elizabeth Malcolm Occupation Dressmaker
1891 280 London Road Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1901 Townhead Close Largs, Ayrshire


Now, that London road address is interesting for another reason.

 

[horse]

The one born 1833 - mother Jean HILL

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker. Living With her Uncle Archibald Malcolm
1851 103 Crown Street Gorbals, Lanarkshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1861 6 McKechnie's Close Largs, Ayrshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1871 6 McKechnie's Close Largs, Ayrshire

Residence
1881 24 Elderslie Street Anderston Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire

Residence: Visitor To Maggie And Elizabeth Malcolm Occupation Dressmaker
1891 280 London Road Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire

Residence: Occupation Dressmaker
1901 Townhead Close Largs, Ayrshire


Now, that London road address is interesting for another reason.

If the censuses in 1841 and 1891 in posts #1 and 2 are the correct ones, those above are not!

 

[DaveHam9]

Cenus in posts #1 and #2 are the only ones I have for my Agnes b. abt 1831, daughter of John MALCOLM & Margaret SHEARER.

The census in post #7 are claimed by a tree to be those of Agnes b. abt 1833 to John MALCOLM & Jean HILL.

I've not listed any census yet for Agnes b. abt 1832.

 

[horse]

1851
Parish Number: 644/2
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 103 Crown St
ED: 17
Page: 4; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1851_163

Archd Malcolm 51
Janet Malcolm 51
Janet Malcolm 22
Agnes Malcolm 19
Margaret Malcolm 14
Elizabeth Malcolm 11
Agnes Malcolm 18 [Niece, b. Largs, Dressmaker]
Anne Lamerson 17

1851
Parish Number: 602
Civil Parish: Largs
Address: Makerstone Place
ED: 3
Page: 19; Line: 5; Roll: CSSCT1851_135

John Graham 52
Elizabeth Graham 42
Margt Graham 10
Donald Graham 6
James Graham 5
Jessie Graham 2
Janet Logan 46
Agnes Jack 40
Margaret Kerr 30
Elizabeth Balfour 23
Agnes Malcolm 20 [b. Largs, servant]
Federica Smith 25

 

[horse]

Not this one..

1861
Reg No: 602
RD: Largs
Civil Parish: Largs
Address: 6 Mc Kechnies Close
ED: 5
Page: 26; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_88

Jean Malcolm 66
Agnes Malcolm 28 [dau, b. Largs, dressmaker]

Possible
1861
Reg No: 567/1
RD: Inverkip
Civil Parish: Inverkip
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Leven House
ED: 2
Page: 4; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1861_78

Mrs E Crooks 80
Jane Crooks 56
Margaret Loudon 29
Jane Paterson 27
Agness Malcolm 30 [b. Largs, Housemaid]
John McCracken 32
William Cochrane 32
Margaret Cochrane 23
Andrew Cochrane 11 Mo
William Lee 41
Christy Lee 43
Isabella Lee 14
Alexander Lee 12
Duncan Lee 12
Robert Lee 9
William Lee 6
Euphamia Brown 61
Catherine Crawford 24

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Hmmmm... give me a minute or two.


I'll do the 1861 one first.

According to a tree (don't know yet if correct) the Janet in Inverkip is not mine but the daughter of Archibald & Janet (unknown)

 

[horse]

Possible..

1871
Reg No: 644/8
RD: Anderston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
Address: 24 Elderslie St
ED: 23
Page: 19; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1871_137

Agnes Malcolm 39 [Head, b. Largs, laundress]
John Forguson 36 [Lodger, b. Keir, Dumfries]

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Hmmmm... give me a minute or two.

Ok.........

 

[DaveHam9]

In 1851 in Lanark there is Agnes the dau of Archibald & Janet and a niece as well so that's a 4th Agnes.

It points to the 1851 servant in Largs as being mine.

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible..

1871
Reg No: 644/8
RD: Anderston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
Address: 24 Elderslie St
ED: 23
Page: 19; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1871_137

Agnes Malcolm 39 [Head, b. Largs, laundress]
John Forguson 36 [Lodger, b. Keir, Dumfries]

According to a tree that is dau of Arch & Janet.

 

[horse]

I haven't checked the trees on this one yet, I've just followed birthplace/occupation and family when given.

Is there a common factor for Agnes after 1841?

 

[horse]

1851
Parish Number: 602
Civil Parish: Largs
Address: Makerstone Place
ED: 3
Page: 19; Line: 5; Roll: CSSCT1851_135

John Graham 52
Elizabeth Graham 42
Margt Graham 10
Donald Graham 6
James Graham 5
Jessie Graham 2
Janet Logan 46
Agnes Jack 40
Margaret Kerr 30
Elizabeth Balfour 23
Agnes Malcolm 20 [b. Largs, servant]
Federica Smith 25

So, this one is yours?

 

[DaveHam9]

Dau of Jean HILL is a dressmaker 1851 - 1901.

Dau of Arch & Janet is in Ayr, Renfrew, Lanark ... should be in Barony in 1881.



We can rule this marriage out - Agnes born Lanark.

Agnes Malcolm
marriage: September 1850 New Monkland,Lanark,Scotland
spouse: David Morrison

 

[DaveHam9]

So, this one is yours?

By elimination it appears to be.