Agnes WRIGHT

[horse]

This fits in 1881, but....

Reg No: 573
RD: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 46 High St
ED: 5; Page: 6; Line: 1; Roll: cssct1881_172

Matthew Paul 37 [Head, b. Paisley, Grocer]
Helen Paul 38 [Wife, b. Fairlie, Ayrs]
Ewin Paul 1 [Son, b. Paisley]
James Malcolm 24 [Son, b. Paisley, Dairyman]
John Malcolm 22 [Son b. Paisley, Flesher]
Mary Malcolm 20 [dau, [Mary Paul], Paisley, Dairymaid]
Archibald Malcolm 19 [Son, Paisley, Dairyman]
Annie Malcolm 16 [Dau, [Annie Paul], Paisley, Shopkeeper Assist]
Jane Lang 24 [Servant]
Maggie Holms 18 [Paisley, Servant]

Annie and Archibald's DOB fit.

:2fun:

 

[horse]

I'm wondering if it is them, adoption or similar comes to mind...

 

[horse]

I can't see the Paul's in 1871 either

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Mary should be older than James and John.

We had 5 but William died and we still have 5. Andrew as well.

 

[horse]

Sorry I found 2 more now...

Mary, Ann, John, Andrew, William, Archibald and James...

 

[horse]

John bap. 1859, Mary 1860...

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

So it looks like some kind of adoption but still can't find Archibald & Isabella's deaths.

 

[horse]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

So it looks like some kind of adoption but still can't find Archibald & Isabella's deaths.

No, that is a bit of a mystery...

 

[DaveHam9]

Check NZ :biggrin:

Archibald's brother James ended up in NZ.

Grey River Argus, Volume 26, Issue LVII, 26 June 1902, Page 2
DEATH
MALCOLM.-On June 24th, 1902, at Dobson, Brunnerton, James MALCOLM, native of Ayrshire, Scotland, aged 75 years.


Sister Mary ended up in Queensland.

Death 13 July 1885/B17973 Wylie Mary Newlands - James Malcolm - Mary Shearer

 

[horse]

Oh!

1881
Reg No: 569
RD: Kilmalcolm
Civil Parish: Kilmalcolm
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Gryfe Side Farm House
ED: 6; Page: 3; Line: 17; Roll: cssct1881_169

James Lang 66
Isabella Duff 30
Archibald Duff 26
Janet Lang 25
Margaret Lang 18
Agnes Lang 15
Dennis McSheffery 23
Archibald Malcolm 45 [Visitor, b. Ayshire, Cow feeder]

 

[horse]

Check NZ :biggrin:

Archibald's brother James ended up in NZ.

Grey River Argus, Volume 26, Issue LVII, 26 June 1902, Page 2
DEATH
MALCOLM.-On June 24th, 1902, at Dobson, Brunnerton, James MALCOLM, native of Ayrshire, Scotland, aged 75 years.


Sister Mary ended up in Queensland.

Death 13 July 1885/B17973 Wylie Mary Newlands - James Malcolm - Mary Shearer

I can't see any Oz/NZ links, what did you think to the 1881 census?

 

[DaveHam9]

Kilmalcolm is where Isabella was born.

I'm thinking dow keeper and cow feeder mean you have found him.

 

[horse]

Yep, if she died, may be he was unable to cope or similar

 

[horse]

Kilmalcolm is where Isabella was born.

I'm thinking dow keeper and cow feeder mean you have found him.

Yeah, I can't find any explanation for Dow, has to be Cow Keeper...

 

[DaveHam9]

Still a bit odd with the children in 20s.

I can't see a baptism yet for Isabella. Only have age 34 in 1861 so far to work with.

2x possible in 1841 for Isabella both rounded down to 20, Paisley High and Abbey.

Might not be either of those with this one:

1851
Piece: SCT1851/569 Place: Kilmalcolm -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Kilmalcolm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 446 Page: 8 Schedule: 29
Address: House In Kilmalcolm
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HOLMS Alexander Head M M 63 Mason Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS Isabella Wife M F 61 - Argyllshire - Cowal
HOLMS Jean Dau U F 25 Dressmaker Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS Isabella Dau U F 22 House Servant Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS Archibald Son U M 20 Mason Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS Robert Son U M 17 Apprentice Wright Or Joiner Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS Isabella Grndau - F 1 - Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm
HOLMS James Son U M 24 Mason Renfrewshire - Kilmalcolm


In 1841 1x4 and 2x20 and 1x25 and 1x50

 

[horse]

SP has one hit for Isobel Holms (spelt like that) for 1828, Renfrewshire. I have one credit left. If you have any other ideas ?

 

[DaveHam9]

Found her by putting parish = Kilmalcolm and dob 1829 +/- 5 and female with no given name or surname:

Piece: SCT1841/569 Place: Kilmalcolm -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Kilmalcolm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 4 Page: 15
Address: Kilmalcolm Village
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HOLM Alexander M 50 Builder Renfrewshire
HOLM (Mrs) F 50 Outside Census County (1841)
HOLM Jean F 15 Renfrewshire
HOLM James M 14 Renfrewshire
HOLM Isabel F 12 Renfrewshire
HOLM Archibald M 10 Renfrewshire
HOLM Robert M 7 Renfrewshire

 

[horse]

SP has one hit for Isobel Holms (spelt like that) for 1828, Renfrewshire. I have one credit left. If you have any other ideas ?

And it also matches Kilmalcolm...

 

[DaveHam9]

SP has one hit for Isobel Holms (spelt like that) for 1828, Renfrewshire. I have one credit left. If you have any other ideas ?

Try father = alexander to see if you still get a hit.

Save it Geoff. :2fun

Isobell Holms
birth: 31 October 1828
christening: 29 November 1828 KILMACOLM,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
father: Alexander Holms
mother: Isobell Mccallum

 

[horse]

Found her by putting parish = Kilmalcolm and dob 1829 +/- 5 and female with no given name or surname:

Piece: SCT1841/569 Place: Kilmalcolm -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Kilmalcolm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 4 Page: 15
Address: Kilmalcolm Village
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HOLM Alexander M 50 Builder Renfrewshire
HOLM (Mrs) F 50 Outside Census County (1841)
HOLM Jean F 15 Renfrewshire
HOLM James M 14 Renfrewshire
HOLM Isabel F 12 Renfrewshire
HOLM Archibald M 10 Renfrewshire
HOLM Robert M 7 Renfrewshire

Good find