Agnes WRIGHT

[DaveHam9]

Agnes Wright b. 14 Sep 1816
christening: 15 Sep 1816 Torthorwald, Dumfries, Scotland
David Wright & Margaret Rutherford

William MALCOLM & Agness WRIGHT
23 May 1840 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Batch: M116024

1841
Piece: SCT1841/850 Place: Torthorwald -Dumfries-shire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Torthorwald Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 4
Address: Torthorwald Village
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WRIGHT David M 60 Farmer Dumfries-shire
RUTHERFORD Mary F 60 Dumfries-shire
WRIGHT James M 30 Journeyman Shoemaker Dumfries-shire
WRIGHT Agnes F 20 Dumfries-shire
RAE David M 2 Dumfries-shire
CAMERON Charles M 15 Apprentice Shoemaker Dumfries-shire
JOHNSTONE William M 5 Dumfries-shire

1841
Piece: SCT1841/602 Place: Largs -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Largs Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Largs
Folio: 3 Page: 16
Address: Wilson Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOLM William M 20 Harness Weaver Ayrshire
MALCOLM Agnes F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
MALCOLM Mary Dean F 2m Ayrshire

James Struthers & Agnes Wright
18 Feb 1856 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Batch: M1193311

1861
Piece 627 Folio 0 Page 6
Registration District: Cambuslang
Civil Parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Bushyhill On, Glasgow & Hamilton Road, Cambuslang
STRUTHERS James Head Mar 44 Freestone Quarryman E Kilbride, Lanarkshire
STRUTHERS Agnes Wife Mar 45 Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire
FORSYTH James Boarder Single 29 Railway Porter Eastwood, Renfrewshire


1873 MALCOLM AGNES WRIGHT STRUTHERS F 57 CAMBUSLANG GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 627/00 0008


Something is not wright.

 

[horse]

You probably don't have the wright ones :biggrin:

Is there anything there that you know to be correct/validated?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Question: How can Agnes be in two places in 1841 census?

The index death entry shows Agnes married William Malcolm and James Struthers.

Census shows Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire which fits with baptism. Parents are in 1841 with an Agnes but does not indicate that one is a daughter.

This is no help:

1851
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Gorbals -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 22
Civil Parish: Tradeston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 621 Page: 6 Schedule: 25
Address: 12 Nelson Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOLM William Head M M 33 Joiner (Journeyman) Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM Agnes Wife M F 35 Ayrshire - Largs ??
MALCOLM Mary Dau U F 9 Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM Janet Dau U F 7 Ayrshire - Largs
Page: 7
MALCOLM Mary Mother W F 56 Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM Alexander Brothr U M 15 Apprentice Boiler Maker Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM John Lodger U M 25 Warper Ayrshire - Largs


We need a baptism for another Agnes.

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Agnes Crawford Wright
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Sep 1814
Christening Place: , DUMFRIES, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Wright
Batch: C195241

If it's that one why would 26 or 27 be rounded down to 20?

 

[horse]

If it's that one why would 26 or 27 be rounded down to 20?

Yeah, strange - usually 5y max

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

If the 1841 census is correct and Agnes was born in Largs then marriage in Largs makes sense.

But the death record has Malcolm and Struthers and later pob is not Largs.

 

[DaveHam9]

I do have a copy of the death certificate.

For some reason I had not transcribed the details to my tree.

Married
1st William Malcolm Joiner journeyman

2nd James Struthers Free stone quarrier

Age 57

Peter Wright - General Servant
Elizabeth M.S. Shullow

 

[horse]

I do have a copy of the death certificate.

Ah! Have we got a parent?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary Wright
christening: 7 Jan 1810 Torthorwald, Dumfries
father: Peter Wright

Ok, so Agnes in 1841 is the daughter of David & Margaret and not the one who married William & James.

So Agnes in 1841 with William was not born Largs.

 

[horse]

So, the 1861 looks good

Geoff

 

[horse]

Mary Wright
christening: 7 Jan 1810 Torthorwald, Dumfries
father: Peter Wright

Ok, so Agnes in 1841 is the daughter of David & Margaret and not the one who married William & James.

So Agnes in 1841 with William was not born Largs.

Yep, more fitting..

 

[DaveHam9]

Hannah Wright b. 25 Sep 1806
christening: 28 Sep 1806 Torthorwald, Dumfries
Peter Wright

John Wright b. 22 Jan 1808
christening: 24 Jan 1808 Torthorwald, Dumfries
Peter Wright & Betty Celant


Agnes born abt 1816 Torthorwald - father = Peter

Celant = Shullow ??

 

[horse]

Not sure if this would be her between marriages, Mother = Mary

1851
Civil Parish: Torthorwald
Town: Torthorwald
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Torthorwald
ED: 2; Page: 6; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1851_210

David Wright 70 [Torthorwald. Pauper, formerly shoemaker]
Mary Wright 71 [Half Morton]
Agnes Wright 31 [Torthorwald]
David Wright 12
Mary Wright 6

Geoff

EDIT: No, Maybe not..

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't see a marriage for Peter that would fit.

 

[horse]

Gonna have to leave it there for now, Dave. Speak later.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

 

[DaveHam9]

David Rae
Christening Date: 18 Jun 1839
Christening Place: , TORTHORWALD, DUMFRIES
Birth Date: 13 Dec 1838
Father's Name: William Rae
Mother's Name: Agnes Wright
Batch: C118504

Ok, that's the Agnes with father = David as per 1841.

 

[Ellie7]

1851
Name:
Agnes Malcolm
Age:
35
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1816
Relationship:
Wife
Spouse:
William Malcolm
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Largs, Ayrshire
Parish Number:
644/2
Civil Parish:
Gorbals
View related Ecclesiastical Parish

County:
Lanarkshire
Address:
12 Nelson St
ED:
22C
Page:
6
Household schedule number:
25
LINE:
18
Roll:
CSSCT1851_166
Household Members:
Name
Age
William Malcolm 33
Agnes Malcolm 35
Mary Malcolm 9
Janet Malcolm 7
Mary Malcolm 56
Alexander Malcolm 15
John Malcolm 25

ellie

 

[Ellie7]

1851

Name:
Agnes Wright
Age:
31
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1820
Relationship:
Daughter (Child)
Father:
David Wright
Mother:
Mary Wright
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Torthorwald, Dumfries
Parish Number:
850
Civil Parish:
Torthorwald
Town:
Torthorwald
County:
Dumfriesshire
Address:
Torthorwald
Occupation:
Agricultural Labourer
ED:
2
Page:
6
Household schedule number:
25
LINE:
10
Roll:
CSSCT1851_210
Household Members:
Name
Age
David Wright 70
Mary Wright 71
Agnes Wright 31
David Wright 12
Mary Wright 6


Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

1871
Name:
Agnes Wright
Age:
53
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1818
Relationship:
Visitor
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Torthorwald, Dumfrieshire
Registration Number:
850
Registration district:
Torthorwald
Civil Parish:
Torthorwald
County:
Dumfriesshire
Address:
Torthorwald Cottage
Occupation:
Servant
ED:
1
Household schedule number:
9
LINE:
3
Roll:
CSSCT1871_185
Household Members:
Name
Age
John Campbell 61
Margaret Campbell 60
Margaret Campbell 38
George Campbell 31
Ellen Campbell 11
Agnes Wright 53

Ellie