Albert Edward MILES 1905.

[p.risboy]

Hi Angela,

I think this answers the p.o.b of parents.

Father - Albert Edward Miles b.1869. Barrow, Lancs. Occ. Ironworks Labourer. (General repairs).
Mother - Eva Miles(nee.Frost) b.1874. Barrow, Lancs.

Living at 4, Howe Street, Barrow In Furness.

Elsie, Albert Jnr. & Frank all born Barrow.

Ada Frost b.1891 Barrow, is with them. Listed as Niece.

Married 13 years.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

1901 census.

Jas Frost Senr.
Age: 71
abt 1830
Relationship - Father-in-law

Born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
Eccl parish - Barrow in Furness, St James the Great.
Lancashire

Address - 51, Howe St.

Reg dist - Barrow in Furness
Sub-reg dist - Barrow in Furness
ED-25

Albert Miles 33. Iron works Lab.
Eva Miles 27. Wife.
Elsie Miles 16 Months.
Jas Frost Snr. 71. Occ. Bricklayers Lab.
Jas Frost Jnr. 29. Occ. Steel worker.
Ada Frost 10. Niece.

All others born Barrow.


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1891 census.

Albert Hiles (Miles on the original census return).

Age: 22
abt 1869
Relation: Brother
Father - James Hiles
Born - Barrow, Lancashire, England
Parish: Barrow in Furness
Eccl parish - St James
Barrow,
Lancashire.

Address -

Reg dist - Barrow In Furness
Sub-reg dist - Barrow in Furness
ED - 15

Frederick Hiles 25
Clara Hiles 26
Annie F Hiles 3
Amnora Hiles 1
James Hiles 69. Occ.Joiner (Widow). b.Dudley, Worcestershire.
Albert Hiles 22. Occ. Blast furnace Lab.

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Can't find the Miles family in 1871 or 1881.

This MAYBE them in 1861 census.

James Miles
Age: 38
abt 1823.
Spouse - Eliza Miles

Born - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish - Dalton
Eccl parish - Barrow, St George
Lancashire

Address - John Street.

Reg dist - Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED - 8

James Miles 38. Occ. Carpenter/Joiner.
Eliza Miles 34
James Miles 15. Occ. Joiner.
John Miles 13
Joseph Miles 10
Alice Miles 7
Ebenezer Miles 5
Mary Ann Miles 4
Sarah Miles 2


All born Dudley, Worcestershire.




Steve.

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Steve
Thank you so very much! I am amazed at how much information you found so quickly.
So was Albert Hiles brother of Albert whose wife was Eva?
And then James is their father?

You are right this is addictive, I'm loving it so amazing unearthing this information. My Dad, (Kenneth Albert Miles 1939) Albert 1905's only son knows no history of our family so it's amazing. I can't wait to tell him. Once I find out more. I guess that is the thing though. You don't know what you don't know do you. That's the intrigue for me.

Thanks Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Angela,

It's just a mistranscription of the name from the original image of the census which Steve thinks reads MILES.

Sometimes when the names can't be read they are guessed and then entered and it makes it harder to find families. Could explain why Steve can't find them so far in 1871 and 1881.

I'll have a look for them in 1881. I don't have access to 1871.

EDIT: No luck with 1881.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Now you are all going to think I am fanciful here but the address is the same as on the 1891 where Frederick Miles is living. The father is the same, the children's dob are different, father's occupation the same and I can't find any Humphries before or after in Barrow. Have checked the original and it is Humphries. Now I need to find who is living at 26 Hood street in the 1871.

Ideas please..
Barbara

1881

26 Hood St
Census Place: Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1342024 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4289 Folio 58 Page 36
Marr Age *** Birthplace
James HUMPHRIES W 59 M Worcester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Joiner
Alfred HUMPHRIES U 28 M Barrow, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Joiner
Hannah M. HUMPHRIES U 16 F Barrow, Lancashire, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Weaver (Undef)
Albert HUMPHRIES 15 M Barrow, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Mary COLLEY U 24 F Worcester, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Servant

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

I tried the same thing assuming I didn't know the family name trying to match other data and I didn't find a family that fitted.

I'm wondering about this marriage:


James Humpheres
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 02 Apr 1854 Saint Thomas,​Dudley,​Worcester,​England
spouse: Harriet Booth

I looked in RD Ulverston for Alfred, Hannah and Albert +/- 2 years using no family name and found nothing that looked like either Humphries or Miles.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Ah well at least you didn't tell me I had had too much red wine!

Who knows what name he used for registering his bairns.

Will wait until Angela gets back to us and look again.

Barbara

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Barbarajoh never too much red wine, it's healthful, or helpful or a combination of these when you've consumed a bit...hic

 

[barbarajoh]

Ah a fellow red wine lover, I like you already!

I am now getting confused even before a glass. Do you have the wedding certificate for the Albert who was married to Eva so we know who the father was. It certainly looks like James and there is a James but he disappears in 1871 and replaces himself with a James Humphries but lives at the same house as Frederick, Albert's brother is living in 10 years later. No wonder I am confused.:

Barbara

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Aaah yes!
Not yet Barbara, I will have a look see what I can turn up.
Cheers
Angela