Albert Edward MILES

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Angela is this the passenger index you found for Frank?

MILES Frank
Y.O.B 1907
*** M
Departure year 1926
Port of departure London
Port of arrival Australia Sydney

If so it would be interesting to see if Elsie was on the list with him.

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Yes that is the one I found, I think i searched for her too. I don't have either the 1924 or 1926 ship name's yet, still plodding on that front.
Thanks

Angela

 

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Has anyone in the family mentioned whether Elsie was married or not? If she come out here in 1924 or 1926 she would have been in her mid twenties and if married would be under a different name on a passenger list. Just a thought i had :biggrin:

 

[davelambert271]

Name: Frank MILES
Date of departure: 6 February 1926
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia

Date of Birth: 1907 (calculated from age)
Age: 19
Marital status:
***: Male
Occupation: Jeweller
Address: 34 Great Queen St, Kingsway, London W.3

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Charles MILES 15, Hart St W.1.
George W MILES 28, Nantgarw Rd, Caerphilly
Walter MILES 16, Hart St. W.1.

Ship: MORTON BAY
Official Number: 130169
Master's name: F.J Ogilvie
Steamship Line: Australian Commonwealth Line
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 20034
Registered tonnage: 13850
Passengers on voyage: 747

dave

edit - there is a Mrs Elsie Miles 28/29 of 9 Thanet Place, High St, Croydon travelling to Aus on 28/1/1925, with two children George H 7 and Ronald G 2 on board 'Demosthenes'

 

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Thank you for the help Dave. Appreciate it

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Thank you all.
On speaking to Dad last night, trying to get him to rack his brains for me.

He told me about a cousin that had been found in Sydney , NSW that Albert Edward Miles 1905 went to visit in the 1950's. The cousin then travelled to the farm at Waddy Forest.

His name was Bill Miles, born UK, he was possibly slightly older than AE Miles 1905. when I get a chance I will look him up.

I did find a 1924 marriage for an
Elsie Miles to
Alexander F Jordan
at Millom , Holy Trinity
Registered at Millom 04/4/4.

I initially discounted it given the assumption that she was a single woman.
I will look it up. As a possibility of a name she travelled under.

The other thing I learned was that there was a relative Wilfred Herman Briand ( he too was a settling farmer in the Coorow waddy area). Hi wife was Nan (nee Smith).

I found a Wilfred Briand B 1907 Registered at Fylde,Lancashire.

The Coopers that AEM1905 emmigrated with are supposedly relatives too.
Not sure if on Maries side or Samuel's.

I have an extremely busy week ahead so will not get much of a chance to do much research until the following week. So apologies in advance if I don't get back to you all, if at all.

Thanks again for your help, Back soon.
Angela

 

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Wilfred Herman Briand. His miltary records are OPEN online at the National Archives Australia if you want to have a look. There is a negative of a photo of Wildred in his military records. You dont see that sort of thing often Even tho its only a negative you can see him pretty clearly.


Name BRIAND, WILFRED HERMAN
Service Australian Army
Service Number WX9645
Date of Birth 28 Feb 1912
Place of Birth BLACKPOOL, ENG
Date of Enlistment 4 Dec 1940
Locality on Enlistment COOROW, WA
Place of Enlistment PERTH, WA
Next of Kin BRIAND, EILEEN
Date of Discharge 24 Oct 1945
Rank Corporal
Posting at Discharge 8 AUST ADVANCED WORKSHOP
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No


Passenger list

Given Names BRIAND, W H
Ship/aircraft name Esperance Bay
Port of embarkation London
Port of disembarkation Fremantle
Date of Arrival 29 Mar 1928


The West Australian
Saturday 27 July 1940

The engagement is announced of Eileen Margaret, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Geo. Smith. of Caron, and Wilfred Briand, of Waddi Forrest. younger son of Mr. and Mrs. Briand. Cleveleys. Blackpool, England.


Burial record [Western Australia]

First Name WILFRED
Last Name BRIAND
Aged (Years) 92 Date of Death 25/10/1999
Suburb NORTH BEACH

First Name EILEEN MARGARET
Last Name BRIAND
Aged (Years) 85 Date of Death 19/10/2002
Suburb NORTH BEACH WA

http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/ResearchAndGenealogy/Search.aspx
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The Coopers are a bit of a puzzle.

Davelambert found this for us

I see on the record the dep date was 11 march. It looks as if Albert was an assistant Engineer, travelling with Sam Cooper 37 Engineer, his wife Maria Cooper 34 and children Alfred 12, Muriel 4. as Albert's last address was a ditto of Sams. They last lived at Hydro Garage, Cleveleys, Blackpool


I found a possible birth for Muriel Cooper

Births Dec 1919
Cooper Muriel
Mother's maiden name Miles
District Fylde
Volume and Page 8e 1049

Unless im missing something i cant find a marriage between a Cooper and Miles So was thinking maybe Maria was married before
That could explain the large gap between Alfred and Muriel births.

 

[davelambert271]

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename, Surname Forename, Church / Register Office, Registers At, Reference
COOPER Samuel, MILES Marian, Higher Openshaw, St. Clement, Manchester 63/3/341

edit - I think the ref is Chorlton 8c 1388 Jun qtr 1910. Openshaw is in Chorlton district and there are only three persons listed under the FreeBMD ref above, one being Samuel Cooper


Lancashire Birth indexes for: Jun qtr 1911
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COOPER Alfred Blackpool A Blackpool MILES BLKA/46/92


Lancashire Birth indexes for: Dec 1919
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COOPER Muriel Blackpool A Blackpool MILES BLKA/63/25

dave

 

[davelambert271]

COOPER, Samuel Head Married 1886 Electrical Engineer Fitter, Ashton Under Lyne Lancs
COOPER, Maria Wife Married under 1yr 1891 Barrow in Furness Lancs

Address: Factory Cottages Fleetwood Road Bispham with Norbeck, Blackpool, Lancashire

dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Jun 1910
MIL[E_][S_] Marian Chorlton 8c 1[3_]88

 

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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename, Surname Forename, Church / Register Office, Registers At, Reference
COOPER Samuel, MILES Marian, Higher Openshaw, St. Clement, Manchester 63/3/341

edit - I think the ref is Chorlton 8c 1388 Jun qtr 1910. Openshaw is in Chorlton district and there are only three persons listed under the FreeBMD ref above, one being Samuel Cooper


Lancashire Birth indexes for: Jun qtr 1911
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COOPER Alfred Blackpool A Blackpool MILES BLKA/46/92


Lancashire Birth indexes for: Dec 1919
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COOPER Muriel Blackpool A Blackpool MILES BLKA/63/25

dave

Thanks Dave. That gives the connection between the Cooper's and Mile's families.

 

[Albert Edward MILES 1905]

Oh wow Dave that might mean the Miles' weren't all in Lancashire, if Marian was at Manchester hmmm

The Aussie cousin William Miles was born in UK not yet know any other identifying information.
Thankyou for your information, my Dad is gettng into this now too. He is even now sending reply text messages. Thinking he must be getting excited. As the ph is usually switched off at 6pm. It is a beautiful thing.

Thankyou all for your help
Angela

 

[cuddley28]

Oh wow Dave that might mean the Miles' weren't all in Lancashire, if Marian was at Manchester hmmm

The Aussie cousin William Miles was born in UK not yet know any other identifying information.
Thankyou for your information, my Dad is gettng into this now too. He is even now sending reply text messages. Thinking he must be getting excited. As the ph is usually switched off at 6pm. It is a beautiful thing.

Thankyou all for your help
Angela

Angela, please contact me we are related, i am related through william james Miles, son of Frederick Miles and Clara Frost he is the brother of Albert Miles the one that married Eva Frost.

You have made my day finding this connection, I have purchased all the birth certifcates and and death certificates

Jennifer