Alexander GILBERTSON

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1881
Registration Number: 432
Registration District: Inverkeithing
Civil Parish: Inverkeithing
County: Fife
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 12
Address: Hope Street
Alexander Gilbertson Head 30 Sawyer Annan Dumfriesshire
Euphemia Gilbertson Wife 24 Glasgow
John Gilbertson son 6 Govan Lanark
Marion Gilbertson dau 4 Charlestown Fife

Alexander married in 1873 in Tradeston, Lanark so he should be single in 1871. I can't find a tree so don't know if he'd be in Dumfries or Lanark or Fife.

I'd like a look up please for Alexander in 1871 and 1861.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

Any idea of his parents?

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Geoff,

Sorry, no parents and no death. I know who he married. :biggrin:

Alexander GILBERTSON & Euphemia SCOTT
24 Nov 1873 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark

Son John is the one in my tree - married to an ANDERSON > KELTIE.

 

[DaveHam9]

The only family I can find in Annan

Piece: SCT1841/812 Place: Annan -Dumfries-shire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Annan-Burgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 8 Page: 11
Address: Lochfield
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GILBERTSON Thomas M 30 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Dumfries-shire
GILBERTSON Hannah F 30 Dumfries-shire
GILBERTSON Fany F 11 Dumfries-shire
GILBERTSON John M 5 Dumfries-shire
GILBERTSON Richard M 3 Dumfries-shire

FreeCEN has no coverage in 1851.

 

[horse]

Thanks, Dave - helpful :2fun:

Maybe a long shot, but there are similarities...

1851
John Gilbertson
Born abt 1814 Gretna, Dumfries
Occ: Hand Loom Weaver (cotton)

Civil Parish: Annan
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Howgill
Occupation: Hand Loom Weaver (cotton)
ED: 6
Roll: CSSCT1851_205

John Gilbertson 37
Helen Gilbertson 41 [b. Abercorn, sinlithgow]
Janet Gilbertson 10 [b. Abercorn]
Jane Gilbertson 9 [b. Gretna, Dumfriesshire]
John Gilbertson 7 [b. do ]
Helen Gilbertson 5 [b. Dornock]
Alexander Gilbertson 2 [ do ]

1861
John Gilbertson
Born abt 1814 Scotland

Civil Parish: Botchergate
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County: Cumberland
RD: Carlisle
Sub-RD: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
RG 9; Piece: 3916; Folio: 57; Page: 30

John Gilbertson 47
Ellen Gilbertson 50
Elizabeth Gilbertson 22
Jane Gilbertson 19
John Gilbertson 16 [Cotton weaver]
Ellen Gilbertson 14
Alexander Gilbertson 11
Agness Gilbertson 6
All b. Scotland

Elizabeth the only real mystery..

Geoff

Edit: Unless Janet is Elizabeth

 

[DaveHam9]

I wonder if this is an error. If not then it's coincidence with Anderson on both sides: Marriage for son John has his father's name as Alexander Anderson Gilbertson.

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. Thanks Geoff.

Helen Gilbertson 41 [b. Abercorn, sinlithgow]

I am wondering if that is Helen ANDERSON.

One of my Anderson families is from Abercorn - hamlet of Society.

 

[DaveHam9]

How crazy. :biggrin:

08/10/1837 GILBERTSON JOHN HELEN ANDERSON/FR1252 M Abercorn /WEST LOTHIAN 661/ 0050 0145

John GILBERTSON & Helen ANDERSON
8 Oct 1837 Abercorn, West Lothian, Scotland

So Anderson on both sides. They are cousins of some sort.

I'll have to work it out.

I'll have to edit my tree to add Alexander as a son to the John & Helen I have elsewhere in the tree.

 

[horse]

Name: John Gilbertson
Spouse: Helen Anderson
Event Date: 08 Oct 1837
Event Place: Abercorn,West Lothian,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11661-6
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1066611, 0102974

 

[horse]

Name: Alexander Gilbertson
Christening Place: , DORNOCK, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1848
Birthplace: , Dornock, Dumfries, Scotland
Father's Name: John Gilbertson
Mother's Name: Ellen Anderson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11819-4
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1067958
Reference ID: 2:160T4F8

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Alexander ANDERSON married 1. Janet DANSKIN

daughter Helen b. 1811 - married John Gilbertson

son Alexander Anderson G b. abt 1849

son John b. abt 1875 **


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Alexander ANDERSON married 2. Janet KELTIE

daughter Christine b. 1841

daughter Charlotta b. 1876 **

Soneone else can work that out. :biggrin:

Half second cousins once removed

 

[horse]

Post #10 has Alexander's birth...

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So Annan is not exactly right in later census.

 

[horse]

Annan is only a couple of miles from Dornock and about 12 miles from Carlisle..

 

[DaveHam9]

We filled in a few gaps with that one, thanks.

Didn't have them in 1861 in Carlisle.

I'll check now I've edited the tree for any other queries.

 

[DaveHam9]

I have no death for John b. abt 1814

Death 1871 GILBERTSON HELEN ANDERSON F 61 ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0048

"There is a Helen Anderson Gilbertson that dies in 1871 at Annan Dumfries. She is married to a John and her father's name is Alexander. But he is a tailor ? and not a letter carrier. Her mother's name is Janet Anderson M.S. ...skin. ? [Danskin] Her widower, John was the informant."

Nothing in my tree to say a search was done for John in 1881 but didn't find him.

 

[horse]

John & H/Ellen go cold after 1861, can't see them in England either.. yet!

 

[horse]

John was a cotton weaver, he could still be a tailor also

 

[DaveHam9]

1871
Registration Number: 812/1
Registration District: Annan Burgh
Civil Parish: Annan
County: Dumfries-shire
Address: Howgill
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 39
GILBERTSON John Head 56 Cotton Weaver Gretna Dumfriessh
GILBERTSON Helen Wife 61 Edinburgh Edinburghsh ? [Abercorn]
GILBERTSON Agnes dau 16 Annan Dumfriessh

 

[horse]

Excellent, so they went back to Scotland... John must have gone also!