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Alf & Hart Jane MORRIS

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Marriage 1890 MORRIS Alf - MOODIE Hart Jane Vic. #4322

Birth Reg# 3418
MORRIS Jno Stanley
Father: Alfd
Mother: Hart Jane McNAB
Birth Place: FTON [Flemington?]
Year: 1896

Maiden name McNAB - First marriage to Jas Moodie in 1884 in Victoria.

Alf supposedly born in Dundee but I can't find him in 1841 census in Scotland.

Hart born Fitzroy in Victoria but I can't find the reg. Perhaps Harriet just lived in Fitzroy prior to 1884 marriage.


Looking for their deaths.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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Harriet Jane Morris Widow N Ballarat 20 Nov 1960 563/093 VPRS 28/P4, unit 2217;
VPRS 7591/P3, unit 353

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MORRIS Harriett Jane EventDeath Father's name TREVERTON Benjamin Harriett (Williams) Reg. year1960 #33300

Making no progress with deaths or births.
 
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SMH Thu 15 Aug 1929
MORRIS - The Relatives and Friends of Mr ALFRED MORRIS and FAMILY, are invited to attend the funeral of his beloved WIFE and their MOTHER, Harriett Jane Morris to leave Pendennis, 57 Grosvenor-crescent, Summer Hill, TO-MORROW (Friday) at 2 15 pm., for Independent Cemetery, Rookwood, by road per motor service.Friends travelling by Funeral Train alight No 1Cemetery Platform.

MORRIS-The Relatives and Friends of Mr.EDMUND MORRIS and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved SISTER and their AUNT, Harriett Jane Morris; to leave Pendennis,57 Grosvenor crescent, Summer Hill, TO-MORROW (Friday) at 2.15 pm for Independent Cemetery,Rookwood by road per motor service.

MORRIS HARRIET J 12999/1929 JAMES – MARGARET - ASHFIELD

For Alfred Morris – off a Tree for birth has:
Alfred MORRIS ***: M Event(s): Birth: 14 Dec 1858 Dundee, Angus, Scotland Parents: Father: John MORRIS Mother: Catherine LEE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Source Information: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type C112821 1855-1867 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE Sheet:
His Death: MORRIS ALFRED 14033/1937 JOHN - CATHERINE THOM – ASHFIELD

SMH Tue 28 Sept 1937
MORRIS.—September 27, 1937, at his residence, 57 Grosvenor Crescent, Summer Hill, Alfred, husband of the late Harriett Jane Morris, and father of Muriel (deceased), Kit, Gladstone, Stanley, Norman, Campbell, and Gordon.
MORRIS.-The Funeral Service of the late ALFRED MORRIS, of 57 Grosvenor Crescent, Summer Hill, will be held at the Church of Christ City Temple, Campbell Street, city, THIS DAY, at 10 a.m., and private funeral at close of service.

MORRIS.-The Officers and Members of the CITY TEMPLE CHURCH OF CHRIST, Campbell Street, city, are Invited to attend the Funeral Service of the late Bro. ALFRED MORRIS; to be held at the above address THIS DAY, at 10 a.m., to be followed by private funeral.

Death of Harriet’s Mother – The Argus Mon 12 Feb 1883
McNAB.–On the 10th inst., at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. F. Tate, Kensington, Margaret McNab, late of Fitzroy, after a long and painful illness, aged 59. Deeply lamented by her sorrowing family. Home papers please copy. Sweetly she rests in Jesus.

Death of Harriet’s Father – Bendigo Advertiser Sat 19 May 1883
DEATH.
On 15th May, James McNab, at his residence, High-street, Eaglehawk, late of Sailors' Gully,aged 54 years.
 
Birth for Alfred Morris
Name: Alfred Morris
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1858
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: John Morris
Mother: Catherine Lee
FHL Film Number: 6035516

1861 Scotland census
Name: Alfred Morris
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Son
Father's name: John Morris 32 yrs b Dundee Forfarshire a shoemaker
Mother's name: Catherine Morris 31yrs b same
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: Dundee Second District
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 10 Tally Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 95
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1861_40
Household Members:
Name Age
John Morris 32
Catherine Morris 31
Alfred Morris 2

1871 Scotland census
Name Age
John Morris 43 – shoemaker master
Catherine Morris 40
Georgina A Morris 15
Alfred Morris 12
Clara Morris 8
Edmund Morris 6
Lizzie Mcwaters 21 (Boarder)
Margaret I Mcwaters 19 (Boarder)
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: St Andrew
County: Angus
Address: No 37 Ann Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 111
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_52

Possible for his arrival in Oz – Vic Assisted & Unassisted Passenger List
Name: Alfd Morris
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Age: 30
Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1888
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Orezaba
Nationality: English
 
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Birth for Alfred Morris
Name: Alfred Morris
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1858
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: John Morris
Mother: Catherine Lee
FHL Film Number: 6035516


Thanks Val.

No wonder I was having no luck with 1841 and 1851 census.

5x Morris families in my tree and now x2 THOM.

That fits:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 13 April 1966 p.48
DEATHS
MORRIS, John Stanley.-April 11, 1966, late of Eastwood, loved brother of Muriel (deceased), Kit, Gladstone, Norman, Campbell and Gordon.


The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 14 April 1966 p.24
FUNERALS
MORRIS.-The Relatives and Friends of the late JOHN STANLEY MORRIS, of Eastwood, are invited to attend his Funeral, to leave Church of Christ Church, Bridge Street, Epping, Tomorrow (Friday) Morning, after a service commencing at 9.15 o'clock, for the Northern Suburbs Crematorium.
MOTOR FUNERALS LTD., EASTWOOD. 85-1955.

Dave
 
2 possible

MORRIS A MR 33 JAN 1888 ORIZABA B 492 018
MORRIS F MR 35 JAN 1888 ORIZABA B 492 019

MORRIS JAS 35 SEP 1888 ORIZABA B 502 002

MORRIS ALFD 30 SEP 1888 ORIZABA B 502 004
MORRIS RITA 26 SEP 1888 ORIZABA B 502 004

Age 30 would fit best but Rita is on the same page.

Trying to prove there is a connection between that Alfred and Rita.
??
GUARAN Rita Rose Cecilia EventDeath Father's name /Morris Michl Mother's Mary Ann (Roughlan) Reg. year1930 Reg. no421
 
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Rookwood Independent
H JANE MORRIS Age 69 - 16/08/1929 Zone A Old Ground Ext 4664

ALFRED MORRIS Age 78 - 28/09/1937 Zone A Old Ground Ext 4664
 
Alfred's family..
Alfred’s father Birth
Name: John Morris
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1827
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1827
Baptism Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: John Morris
Mother: Euphemia Bremner
FHL Film Number: 993402

And Dad’s death
Name: Jno Morris
Birth Year: abt 1827
Age: 85
Death Place: Flemington, Victoria
Father's name: Morris Jno
Mother's name: Euphemia Brunner
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 14333

The Argus - 10 Dec 1912
MORRIS-On the 7th December at his residence, Shields-street, Flemington, John Morris, boot manufacturer (late Dundee, Scotland), beloved father of Catherine Morris, beloved father of Mrs. David Miller, Mrs William Wi....., Alfred and Edmund Morris (interred privately, Melbourne cemetery, December 9).


Parents Marriage
Name: Catharine Lee
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 11 Jun 1852
Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Spouse: John Morris
FHL Film Number: 993404

Mother - Catherine Lee b 1830 –
Name: Catharine Lee
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1829
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1829
Baptism Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: Arthur Lee
Mother: Mary Jamieson
FHL Film Number: 993402

Arrival in Oz
Name: Catherine Morris
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Age: 50
Arrival Date: 29 Aug 1883
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Orient
Nationality: English

and possible for her Death
Name: Cath Lee Morris
Birth Year: abt 1830
Age: 84
Death Place: Flemington, Victoria
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 5562

Woo hoo - found Alfred’s parents John & Catherine Morris at 64 Shield Street Flemington – John’s a Bootmaker on 1903 Vic ERs
 
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Can't see a birth for Hart in Vic. or NSW.


Thanks Val.

MORRIS CATHERINE 50 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 003
MORRIS CLARA 20 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 003
MORRIS JOHN 52 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 003

MORRIS JOHN E MR 25 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 011

MORRIS THOS E 40 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 005
MORRIS —- MRS 38 AUG 1883 ORIENT B 422 005

Dave
 
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Can't see a birth for Hart in Vic. or NSW

Try looking for Jane H - I was looking for Harriet - Harriett and was about to look for Jane..

I wonder if she was born in UK or on the way out...
 
I think pob on the marriage has her born Fitzroy.

I've not seen the fiche at the library for this one so can't confirm that.

If you look up both names in the fiche for the marriage you will usually get pob for both of them.
 
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Can't see a marriage for James McNab & Margaret in England.

Several possible in Scotland.
 
Hi Dave,

Name: James Mcnab
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 15 May 1848
Marriage Place: Cupar,Fife,Scotland
Spouse: Margaret Greive
FHL Film Number: 1040101

Name: James McNab
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 54
Death Place: Eaglehawk, Victoria
Father's name: Jos
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4842

children of James & Margaret McNab nee Grieve on Vic BMD

1st child Alexander McNab b 1849 Eaglepoint Vic – 1913??

Elizabeth McNab 1857 Sandhurst – died 1860?

James Frank McNab 1859 Eaglehawk – died 1860 Vic

Mary McNab 1864 Eaglehawk - m/d ?

Isabella McNab 1866 Sailors Gully Vic – died 1867

John McNab 1868 Eaglehawk – died 1869

Richard John McNab 1870 Eaglehawke – 1929 - married Alice Tamber/Tanner

1897 Vic – The Argus Fri 6 Oct 1922 - McNAB - TANNER - (Silver Wedding). On the 6th October, 1897, at St Andrew's Clifton Hill, R. J (Jack) youngest son of the late J and M McNab of Eaglehawk Bendigo to Alice second daughter of the late R. W. and M. A. Tanner of Mount Egerton –

Richard’s death – The Age Tue 15 May 1929 – On 14 May at 18 Tyne street Carlton, Richard John Mcnab (Late of Barkly Street Brunswick) relict of the late Alice McNab and loving brother of Margaret (Mrs Davies) and Mary (Mrs Jeane) aged 58 years.

Deaths with no births listed:
Jas McNab b 1860 – died 1914 Collingwood
 
Thanks Val.

Age at death points to 1860 for Harriet.

No mention of Harriet in list of siblings. Died Aug 1929 so still alive when Richard died.

Vic. BDM has the name as Grey/Gray.

How do we prove the connection to that James McNab? 5 possible marriages in Scotland to a Margaret.

Dave
 
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Which daughter married Tate?

... at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. F. Tate ...

Death 1883 MCNAB Margaret - Grieve Robt - Unknown (Unknown) Reg. no1534


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MCNAB Margaret Christi Ann Spouse's family nameTATE Fenwick Reg. year1878 Reg. no1679

Can't see a Tate - Davies/Davis marriage in NSW or Vic.

Something is not right

Death 1941 DAVIES Margaret Jane - MCNABE James - Margaret (Gray) Reg. no5475
 
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Mary b. 1864 married 1920 ?

MCNAB Mary Borrowman - JEANES Jas Hy Reg. year1920 Reg. no10737

... brother of Margaret (Mrs Davies) and Mary (Mrs Jeane) ...

No birth reg for Margaret.
 
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Name: Margaret Jane McNabb
Birth Date: Abt 1861
Birth Place: Eaglehawk, Victoria
Registration Year: 1861
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: James McNabb
Mother: Margaret Gray
Registration Number: 23171

Bendigo Advertiser – Sat 28 April 1894
Powell —McNab.—On 26th March, at the residence of the bride's mother, Troy Villa, North Fitzroy, by the Rev. T. W. McGregor, Charles Powell,eighth son of late Phillip Powell, Monmouth,England, to Margaret Jane, eldest daughter of late James McNab, Eaglehawk, Bendigo.

Possible for Charles’s death in WA
Powell Charles 44 Unknown Unknown Unknown 2426 1899
The Age Tue 31 Oct 1899 – DEATHS
POWELL – On the 15th October at Bunbury Hospital, WA, Charles Powell the beloved husband of Margaret Powell.

They had a daughter Margaret Gray Powell b 1895 Fitzroy – Reg no: 3286

2nd Marriage
Name: Margt Jane Powell
Spouse Name: Jno Davies
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Number: 2000

Her Death
Name: Margt Jane Davies
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 79
Death Place: Kew, Victoria
Father's name: Jas Mcnabe
Mother's name: Margt Gray
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 5475

Daughter Margaret Gray Powell on ERs up to 1921 then vanishes..
 
Thanks Val.

I missed the McNabb.

Gray/Grey and Grieve ??

Death 1883 McNAB Margaret - GRIEVE Robt Unknown (Unknown) Vic. #1534

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Monday 12 February 1883 p.1
Deaths.
McNAB.-On the 10th inst., at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. F. Tate, Kensington, Margaret McNab, late of Fitzroy, after a long and painful illness, aged 59. ...



Birth 1860 MCNABB James - James - Margaret (Grey) Reg. no10234


Death 1952 TATE Fenwick - TATE Fenwick - Margaret (Mcnabb) Reg. no3199

Dave
 
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Surname: TATE
Given Names: Elizth Daisy
Event: B
***: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Fenwick
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Christi Ann MCNAB
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: KENSINGTON HILL
Death Place:
Year: 1891
Reg. Number: 34369

Surname: TATE
Given Names: Elizth Daisy
Event: D
***: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Fenwick
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Ctina MCNAB
Age: 3
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place: Ken Hill
Year: 1894
Reg. Number: 13666
 
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