Alfred John Martin.

[johnno1970]

Hi,
I'm trying to find the first marriage of the above.
Born in Rotherfield, Uckfield, sussex on November 16th 1905.
Married my grandmother Bridget Murphy in London in 1939, and was registered as a widower on that marriage cert., so I am trying to find his first wifes name. I know he was living with his grand parents in Rotherfield at the time of the 1911 census but can't pin him down in the intervening years. I know his parents moved to Gwent in South Wales before 1911 while he stayed with his grandparents George and Caroline Martin in Rotherfield, so he could have moved to South Wales at some point also.

 

[Ladybird1300]

There was a marriage in Uckfield second qtr 1927 to a Gertrude M Page

Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 287


Amanda

 

[johnno1970]

There was a marriage in Uckfield second qtr 1927 to a Gertrude M Page

Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 287


Amanda

Thanks Amanda, I've checked that one out and its not correct.

 

[Ellie7]

Alfred J Martin
Birth Date:----abt 1905
Date of Registration:----Mar 1956
Age at Death:---51
Registration district:---Paddington
Inferred County:---London
Volume:---5d
Page:---259

is this his death ,and have you his cert. Not sure if both wifes would be on it.

Ellie

 

[johnno1970]

Alfred J Martin
Birth Date:----abt 1905
Date of Registration:----Mar 1956
Age at Death:---51
Registration district:---Paddington
Inferred County:---London
Volume:---5d
Page:---259

is this his death ,and have you his cert. Not sure if both wifes would be on it.

Ellie

Hi Ellie, no. He died in 1976 Merthyr Tydfil, Wales and I dont have his cert.

 

[Ellie7]

1930 Electoral Roll 72 7th Ave. Ilford parish of Stepney
A Charles Alfred Martin,Alice Martin.

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

ALFRED JOHN
Last nameMARTIN
GenderMale
Birth day16
Birth month11
Birth year1905
Age
Death quarter1
Death year1976
DistrictMerthyr Tydfil
CountyGlamorganshire
Volume27
Page0218
CountryWales

GRO about £9

Ellie

 

[johnno1970]

1930 Electoral Roll 72 7th Ave. Ilford parish of Stepney
A Charles Alfred Martin,Alice Martin.

Ellie

No Charles in his name Ellie.

 

[Ellie7]

With the birth date on his death cert. He was not on the 1939 Reg.

Ellie

 

[Ladybird1300]

There is a marriage in Glamorgan to Laura H David fourth qtr 1926

Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 359

And another third qtr 1932 to Olive M Black

Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 319


Amanda

 

[johnno1970]

There is a marriage in Glamorgan to Laura H David fourth qtr 1926

Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 359

And another third qtr 1932 to Olive M Black

Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 319


Amanda

Hi Amanda,
I've checked out Laura H David too, pic of gravestone on billion graves I think and that does not match either.

 

[Ellie7]

Alfred J Martin
Date of Registration:---Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration district:--Newport Market
Inferred County:
Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Spouse:---Laura H David
Volume Number:---11a
Page Number:---359


Laura Hannah
Last nameMartin
Age37
Birth year1898
Burial year1935
Burial date12 Feb 1935
PlaceLlantilio Pertholey
CountyMonmouthshire
CountryWales
Record setMonmouthshire Burials


Edit Caroline Ann Martin 1935 Bedwellty


Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

LAURA H
Last name
MARTIN
Gender
Female
Birth day
Birth month
Birth year
1898
Age37
Death quarter1
Death year1935
DistrictBedwellty
CountyMonmouthshire
Volume11A
Page148
CountryWales

ellie

 

[johnno1970]

LAURA H
Last name
MARTIN
Gender
Female
Birth day
Birth month
Birth year
1898
Age37
Death quarter1
Death year1935
DistrictBedwellty
CountyMonmouthshire
Volume11A
Page148
CountryWales

ellie

I ruled that one out Eliie based on her husbands death, buried in the same grave if I remember.

 

[johnno1970]

I ruled that one out Eliie based on her husbands death, buried in the same grave if I remember.

This from St. Mellons cemetery Monmouthshire.


7312 MARTIN LAURA H 1897-1935, HER HUSBAND ALFRED J 1898-1960

 

[johnno1970]

Hi Amanda,
I've checked out Laura H David too, pic of gravestone on billion graves I think and that does not match either.

I cant find a death for an Olive M Martin in the time frame that would match either.

 

[juliejtp]

Found this marriage.

1928 - Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
Alfred J Martin
Spouse Alice Davies

 

[johnno1970]

Found this marriage.

1928 - Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
Alfred J Martin
Spouse Alice Davies

Finding a matching death is the problem though. Alfred Martin was a hugely common name at the time it seems.

 

[johnno1970]

With the birth date on his death cert. He was not on the 1939 Reg.

Ellie

What would that normally indicate? That he was out of the country? Yet we know he was married in London that year.

 

[Ellie7]

Either he didn't bother or I couldn't find it. Any great uncles/aunties that your parents spoke about or attended their funerals.


Elie