Alfred Sidney OTTAWAY & Emily Alice DIXON

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Jun Qtr 1876
Ottaway Alfred Sidney Poplar 1c 1129
Dixon Emily Alice Poplar 1c 1129

1881
RG11 Piece 1711 Folio 89 Page 23
Civil Parish: West Ham
County: Essex
Address: 25 Alexandra St
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alf. S. OTTWAY Head M M 30 Boiler Maker Marylebone Middlesex
Emily A. OTTWAY Wife M F 26 Canning Town Essex
Alice I. OTTWAY Dau F 4 Canning Town Essex
Alf. S. OTTWAY Son M 1 Canning Town Essex


Assisted to NSW
OTTAWAY Sidney 32 'Lusitania' 1884 Sydney and family Reels 2142, 2495
OTTAWAY Emily 28
OTTAWAY Alice 6
OTTAWAY Alfred 4
OTTAWAY George 1


Deaths in NSW:
20464/1938 OTTAWAY ALFRED SIDNEY - THOMAS - MARY ANN A - BURWOOD
7912/1944 OTTAWAY EMILY ALICE - WILLIAM - ELIZABETH - BURWOOD

The name is OTTAWAY on NSW but Emglish records have it also as OTWAY and OTTWAY.
I still can't find a birth reg that fits for either of them. Alfred was known as Sid.

NSW Death 19677/1951 FURNER ALICE ISABELLA - SIDNEY - EMILY ALICE - NEWCASTLE


I've had no luck so far finding them in 1871 census.

 

[horse]

This looks like Alfred's birth..

Alfred Sidney Ottaway
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1851
Father: Thomas Ottaway
Mother: Mary Ann Ottaway
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers
[Add: 5 North Place. Occ: Carriage maker]

Geoff

Edit: Baptism.

 

[horse]

Possibly 1861..

Civil Parish: West Ham All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
RD: West Ham
Sub-RD: Stratford
ED: 15; Piece: 1056; Folio: 30; Page: 9

Thomas Ottaway 46 [b. Dorking, Surrey. Coach Maker]
Mary Ottaway 44
Edwin Ottaway 14 [b. Clerkenwell]
Walter Ottaway 12 [b. New Cross]
Sidney Ottaway 10 [b. New Cross, Surrey]
Ellen Ottaway 7 [Ashford]
Alice Ottaway 2 [West Ham]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

 

[horse]

I can see Alf/Sid's parents in 1871 but not him

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks for looking. I have no idea if he was still in the area of London.

 

[horse]

1851

He must have been b. Jan/Feb 1851

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Hatcham St James
County: Surrey
RD: Greenwich
Sub-RD: St Paul Deptford
ED: 1c; Piece: 1584; Folio: 72; Page: 37

Thomas Ottaway 37 [b. Dorking. Coach Maker]
Mary Ottaway 36
Thomas Ottaway 16
William Ottaway 14
James Ottaway 9
Charles Ottaway 6
Edwin Ottaway 4
Hylton Ottaway 2
Sidney Ottaway 2 Mo [b. Deptford, Surrey]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Marriage has father as Thomas a carriage builder so that fits.

Father of Emily is William a smith.

 

[horse]

Father of Emily is William a smith.

He's William Dixon in the censuses, Did Elizabeth marry another William?

 

[DaveHam9]

He's William Dixon in the censuses, Did Elizabeth marry another William?

Emily's father is William on her marriage and death reg. I have no idea if Elizabeth on her death reg is correct for her mother.

Have you found a William, a smith, with another wife not named Elizabeth?

 

[horse]

Dear me... a smith as in blacksmith redf)

:2fun::2fun:

Another one to keep out of gibbo's way... :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Dear me... a smith as in blacksmith redf)

:2fun::2fun:

Another one to keep out of gibbo's way... :biggrin:

I was going to write 'blacksmith' but the marriage just says 'smith' :biggrin:

99% of the time I put surnames in upper case.

 

[horse]

1861

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Plaistow
County: Essex
RD: West Ham
Sub-RD: West Ham
ED: 15; Piece: 1059; Folio: 49; Page: 15

William Dixon 46 [b. Handsworth, Staffs. Forge man]
Elizabeth Dixon 42 [b. Leamington]
Sarah Griffith 80
Edward Dixon 19
James Dixon 16
Sophia Dixon 12
Benjaman Dixon 10
Emily Dixon 6 [b. Plaistow]
Isabella Dixon 4
William Dixon 8
Samuel Dixon 5/12

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

This is Alice born 1877.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 30 June 1951 p.36
DEATHS
FURNER Alice I.-June 29, 1951, suddenly, at Newcastle, wife of the late Rev. G. Watkin Furner, beloved mother of Dorothy (Mrs. J. S. Paine) and Curzon.

 

[horse]

Hmmm... the return of the clergy :biggrin:

Anything else you need from this one, Dave?

 

[DaveHam9]

Emily in 1871 or was she also not found?

Name: Emily Dixon
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Canning Town, Essex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: West Ham
Sub-District: West Ham
Parish: West Ham
County: Essex
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self William Dixon M 55 Handsworth, Staffordshire
Wife Elizabeth Dixon F 52 Newcastle, Northumberland
Son James Dixon M 26 Scotland
Son Benjamin Dixon M 20 West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Son William Dixon M 18 Canning Town, Essex
Daughter Emily Dixon F 16 Canning Town, Essex
Daughter Isabella Dixon F 13 Canning Town, Essex
Son Samuel Dixon U 10 Canning Town, Essex
Daughter Elizabeth Dixon F 8 Canning Town, Essex

Census ref thanks Geoff.

 

[horse]

RG10; Piece: 1632; Folio: 90; Page: 27

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That's it for this one.