Alfred William BYE

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 14650/1912 BYE ALFRED W - MURTOUGH ELIZABETH M - MANLY * 24 Oct 1912 * Not CofE PR

Death 22381/1934 BYE ALFRED W - WILLIAM - EMMA - WOOLLAHRA * 3 Oct 1934

Aged 51.

Looking for Alfred's birth.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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Found a couple of trees, possibly not of this world

This is a possible, though C of E..

Alfred Bye
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1883
Baptism Place: Bethnal Green St Peter, Tower Hamlets, England
Parents = William Bye & Emma Bye
[Occ = french polisher. Also sister, Emma age 5y bap at same time]

Geoff

 

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NSW E/R 1913
Subdistrict: Mosman Bay
District: Mosman
Address: 98 Spencer road
Occ: Agent
[With Elizabeth]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

When I say 'Not CofE' I mean it's not (all of them are not there) in the CofE set on A...

I have nothing in my tree that gives any clue as to where Alfred was born.

Only clue. He has a sister Maud.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know if Maud is in NSW.

??
4x Alfred

Births Sep Qtr 1883
BYE Alfred Bethnal Green 1c 248 mmn THOROGOOD

 

[DaveHam9]

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BYE, JAMES - THOROGOOD
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 251

BYE, ALICE - THOROGOOD
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 239

BYE, EMMA - THOROGOOD
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 273

Don't know if we have the right mmn.

 

[DaveHam9]

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Births Mar Qtr 1883
BYE Alfred Shoreditch 1c 89 mmn ELLIOTT

BYE, ELIZA - ELLIOTT
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 62

BYE, MARGARET LOUISA - ELLIOTT
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 51


No Maud there.

 

[DaveHam9]

BYE, MAUD - THOROGGOD
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 160 Occasional Copy: A


Marriages Sep Qtr 1875
BYE William Bethnal Green 1c 663
THOROGOOD Emma Bethnal Green 1c 663


If that is the right family why mention only sister Maud?

Also no mention of a middle name for Alfred in baptism or census records.

 

[DaveHam9]

Maud Bye
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place St John At Hackney, S Hackney, London, England
County London
Parish St John At Hackney
Sub-District South East Hackney
Registration District Hackney
Gender Female
Age 19
Marital Status (Original) SINGLE
Occupation TAILORESS
Birth Year (Estimated) 1892
Birthplace London B Green Midx, London
Relationship to Head of Household Sister
Alfred Bye Head M 28 London B Green Midx, London
Alice Bye Sister F 22 London B Green Midx, London
Maud Bye Sister F 19 London B Green Midx, London

 

[DaveHam9]

Arrived 1911 or 1912 ??

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 23 Nov 1912 p.20
MARRIAGES
BYE - MURTOUGH.-October 24, 1912, at the Church of Our Lady Immaculate, Manly, by Rev. T. Barry, assisted by the Rev. P. Sheehy, M. Sherin, and R M'Eligott, Alfred W., only son of the late Albert Willam Bye, of Victoria Park, London, to Elizabeth Margaret (Lily), youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. James B. Murtough, of Yattendon, Manly. Home papers please copy.

Something is not quite right.

Father is Albert William Bye ? Death reg has William & Emma.

Why only mention sister Maud? What about sister Alice and brother William??

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths 1901 to 1911 for Emma and spouse ??

Emma is 48 in 1901. No death but where is she in 1911 then?

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Deaths Mar Qtr 1903
Bye William 50 Hackney 1b 335

The only deaths 1901 - 1911

Deaths Dec Qtr 1901
Bye Emma 64 Paddington 1a 37

Deaths Dec Qtr 1908
BYE Emma Louisa 68 Plomesgate 4a 563

No death for an Emma Bye in NSW or Vic. index.

 

[DaveHam9]

Emma born about 1854 Shoreditch - I can't see a reg that fits that.

Only one for 1854

THOROGOOD, EMMA - BEAL
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 243


No Thorogood - Beal marriage on FreeBMD.

Is Thorogood the right mmn? If so then better try to trace Maud.

 

[DaveHam9]

One tree agrees the father is Alfred William and the son Alfred Wallace.

Marriage and electoral rolls and death have Alfred William.

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Marriages Dec Qtr 1911
Burt Frances Fulham 1a 760
Henrico Herbert L Fulham 1a 760
THOROGOOD Maud Fulham 1a 760
TIMMS Albert Fulham 1a 760