Alice Nellie Miles b. Bethnal Green 1877-1882

[saraht43]

Looking for parents and siblings of Allice Nellie Miles born between 1877 and 1882 either in Bethnal Green or Marylebone. Was told she had 12 or 13 brothers. Believe one was named Harold or Harry. She married 4 times:

1. Henry De Fraine 1899 Marylebone

2. (Fritz) Carl Hermann Bernhardt 1907 Bethnal Green

3. Frederick Blaxall 1919 Kensington

4. Thomas H. P. Clayton 1928 Kensington

Was also told she died about 1954....would love to know where.

Thanks in advance for all responses,
Sarah

 

[oznannie]

Hi again Sarah
So she's Max's Mum from another post right? Bernhardt?

Tks
oznannie

 

[oznannie]

Sarah, the easiest way to find her father would be to order the first marriage cert. At the moment they are only 7pounds but are going up to over 9 pounds in April.
It should give details of her father, occupation her address and age, witnesses which are always good to know, often siblings.
You probably know this, you can order online, only takes 10days to Oz & no postal charges...
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Just to point out, Free BMD also have a Alice Nellie HOBBS on the same page as MILES marriage. 3 brides and 2 grooms??
Worth looking into I reckon
There's a death in 1954 for Alice N Clayton aged 74 yrs bn 1880c in Harrow Gtr London, vol 5f p303 (Alice was 20 in 1901 census)

oznannie

 

[saraht43]

Sarah, the easiest way to find her father would be to order the first marriage cert. At the moment they are only 7pounds but are going up to over 9 pounds in April.
It should give details of her father, occupation her address and age, witnesses which are always good to know, often siblings.
You probably know this, you can order online, only takes 10days to Oz & no postal charges...
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Just to point out, Free BMD also have a Alice Nellie HOBBS on the same page as MILES marriage. 3 brides and 2 grooms??
Worth looking into I reckon
There's a death in 1954 for Alice N Clayton aged 74 yrs bn 1880c in Harrow Gtr London, vol 5f p303 (Alice was 20 in 1901 census)

oznannie

Yes she is Max's mom. Thank you so much for the death info on Alice.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
I don'y know how much info you have about her marriages and children, but I will start from 1911 back.
On 1911 census it says she was born Plymouth, Devon, and she was 29 yrs old

1901 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Miles
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 25 Bourke Rd, Willesdon

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Household schedule number: 205
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Miles 48 Plymouth
Frederick Miles 26 Plymouth, Railway Ticker collector
Henry Miles 24 Weymouth, Booking Clerk
Agustus Miles 19 Marylebone
Sidney Miles 19 Marylebone, Ironmongers lab
Albert Miles 2 Marylebone, Railway messenger
Harold Hurst 10 boarder

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Miles
Name: Elizabeth Miles
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 114 Miles Buildings, Marylebone

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Miles 37 Plymouth
Ernest Miles 18 Plymstock, Railway Ticket Examilner
Fredk Miles 15 Plymstock, Book stall boy
Albert Miles 13 Weymouth, Book stall boy
Alice Miles 11 Marylebone
Joseph Miles 9 Kilburn
Sydney Miles 7 Kilburn

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Jane Miles
Name: Elizabeth Jane Miles
[Elizabeth Jane Gliddon]
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Tavistock, Devon, England

Civil parish: St John Hampstead
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Lowfield Road, Hampstead
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 22

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Miles 33 Chelsea, Railway Signalman
Elizabeth Jane Miles 29 Tavistock
George Edwin Thos. Miles 11 Plymouth
Ernest Chas. Miles 7 Plymouth
Frederick Rd.Lewis Miles 5 Horsebridge
Albert Hy.Alphonse Miles 3 Weymouth
Selina Alice Ellen Gladden Miles 16months, Marylebone
Mary Ann Gliddon 68 Mother in Law, Launceston

Marriage - Joseph Miles to Elizabeth Glidden O/D 1872 Plymouth ref 5b 498

dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
from here it gets bitty
I think this may be Elizabeths parents

1871 England Census
about Thomas Gliddon
Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Sanceds, England
Civil parish: St Budeaux
Town: Knackersknowle
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 49 'Sanceds' ? Gardener
Mary A Gliddon 42 'Madanie Church' ?
George Hollins 1 Devonport, G.Son
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1861 England Census

Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgerule, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Tavistock
Town: Tavistock
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: Bannerwell St, Tavistock

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 41 Bridgerule
Mary Ann Gliddon 33 Launcellos
Elizabeth J Gliddon 9 Tavistock
Ellen Gliddon 5 Tavistock
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1851 England Census
about Thomas Gliddon
Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgerule, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Tavistock
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 38 Bridgerule, Ag Lab
Mary Ann Gliddon 27 Launcellos, Cornwall

dave

 

[saraht43]

Hi
from here it gets bitty
I think this may be Elizabeths parents

1871 England Census
about Thomas Gliddon
Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Sanceds, England
Civil parish: St Budeaux
Town: Knackersknowle
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 49 'Sanceds' ? Gardener
Mary A Gliddon 42 'Madanie Church' ?
George Hollins 1 Devonport, G.Son
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1861 England Census

Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgerule, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Tavistock
Town: Tavistock
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: Bannerwell St, Tavistock

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 41 Bridgerule
Mary Ann Gliddon 33 Launcellos
Elizabeth J Gliddon 9 Tavistock
Ellen Gliddon 5 Tavistock
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1851 England Census
about Thomas Gliddon
Name: Thomas Gliddon
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgerule, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Tavistock
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gliddon 38 Bridgerule, Ag Lab
Mary Ann Gliddon 27 Launcellos, Cornwall

dave

Wow Dave,

You have been busy. This is amazing...I believe the Elizabeth (Gliddon) Miles you have listed IS Alice's mother....and was told she had lots of brothers so the information you've discovered fits. I am doing this for my best friend who originally grew up in Harrow, England. Alice Miles is her grandmother, who raised her...she will be so excited about this information.

Thank you so much,
Sarah:biggrin:

 

[saraht43]

Can anyone tell me if there is a Frank or Francis Clayton (wife Maureen) in the Ben Fleet---Southend on Sea area? He was a grandson of Alice Miles. He was born in 1930 Marylebone. Don't know if he and Maureen had any children or not.

Any info greatly appreciated.
Sarah & Dawn
Deep in the Heart of Texas, USA

 

[oznannie]

To Dave
Well done, wonderful info
You are a "genie" friend..

oznannie

 

[oznannie]

Hi Sarah
These people may be living.
I'm not sure what the criteria is here in the forum.
Dave will know.

oznannie

 

[davelambert271]

Can anyone tell me if there is a Frank or Francis Clayton (wife Maureen) in the Ben Fleet---Southend on Sea area? He was a grandson of Alice Miles. He was born in 1930 Marylebone. Don't know if he and Maureen had any children or not.

Any info greatly appreciated.
Sarah & Dawn
Deep in the Heart of Texas, USA

Hi
sorry for delay, have been out all day
This may be the marriage
Francis Clayton to Maureen R Chatters J/M 1955 Harlow Essex ref 5f 1049

there does not seem to be any children

Oznannie, the info I give is available freely on the internet.

dave

 

[oznannie]

Thanks Dave
I wasn't sure of the criteria within the forum about living relatives and privacy laws, not so much Free BMD but from paid websites.
Thanks for reply.

oznannie