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Am I reading too much into Andrew Carney?

benny1982

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As the story goes, James Smith, my ancestor wed Sarah Inkpen in Oxford in August 1819. One witness was Andrew Carney. James Smith died in 1849 and in 1841 he said he was not born in county of residence, Oxfordshire. So I have no record of where he was born. James was born c1789 and Andrew Carney was born c1788 so both about the same age.

Andrew Carney lived in Oxford for a short time but it seems he was from London and he moved back there by 1822. It seems Andrew Carney and James Smith had similar occupations. James was a tin plate worker and Andrew was a metal turner/gold size maker. So both James and Andrew worked in metal.

Andrew died in 1845 in Clerkenwell, London. His 3rd marriage was in 1842 and he said his father was James Carney a cutler. So Andrew's father was also in the metal making/dealing business.

Andrew lived in St Clement Oxford in 1819, just outside the main city centre, whereas James lived in the city itself.

It has been bugging me and I may be reading too much into it but I am wondering if Andrew Carney was a relative of James Smith, or unfortunately for me, just a workmate or friend of his who also did metal work.

In 1801 a C Carney was a master to a J Smith according to apprenticeship registers duties paid, but many details were left blank in that entry.
 

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Don't think you can tell yet. Witness because he is related or because he is a friend working in same trade.

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Don't think you can tell yet. Witness because he is related or because he is a friend working in same trade.

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Yes that is the rub. They could have both been friends from the London area and moved up to Oxford, or they met in Oxford through work. I have been unable to find Andew's baptism. As said, they could have been related and worked in the same trade.
 

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