Amelia/Sophia LOAN

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 6519/1894 INGRAM JOHN - LOAN AMELIA - ST LEONARDS * 17 Feb

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - WILLOUGHBY - NAREMBURN POLLING-PLACE
INGRAM John William, 74 Chandos-street, painter
INGRAM Amelia Sophia, 74 Chandos-street, domestic duties

Death 17702/1918 INGRAM SOPHIA A - JAMES - EMILY - ST LEONARDS * 15 Nov

Burial record has her age as 48. Looking for her birth. So far I can't find it in NSW, Qld., Vic., SA, WA, or England.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I've checked Loan/Lone/Loane.

Now checked Ireland and Scotland 1868 - 1872.

 

[Ellie7]

John Ingram
MarriageEvent Date: 17 Feb 1894
Event Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Event Place (Original): Mariner's Church, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Amelia Sophia Loan
Spouse's Gender: Female

 

[Ellie7]

Percy Andrew Paddock
Gender Male
Residence Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia
Birth year 1893
Baptism year 1893
Baptism date 29 Oct 1893
Baptism place St. Francis Xavier, Narrabri, New South Wales, AustraliaState New South WalesCountry Australia
Father's name( WilliamPaddock
Mother's first name(s) Emily IngramRecord set Australia, Births & Baptisms, 1792-1981
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

Something is a bit odd. St Leonards is a suburb north of the city of Sydney. The Mariners Church is in the city.

Image 5 on the film is dated October 1895. Image 50 is 1910.

Registers filmed out of sequence. Seems the register starts July 1891. I have four other marriages at that church but all before that date.
This church is one of the few with registers not on film at the Mitchell Library (currently closed) in Sydney.


Married at 22 Fitzroy st North Sydney.

Amelia age 24 born Tumut, NSW father James a brewer, mother Emma Allard.

 

[DaveHam9]

Loan & Allard marriage not in NSW index.

??
Death LOAN JAMES 5106/1940 JAMES - MARY - TOOUMWAL

I think that is meant to be Tocumwal. But death probably too recent.

No death for an Emma Loan in NSW or Vic. index.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103670672

Married to a James but not the right one.

LOAN
Mary
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
UNKNOWN
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
Barwo
<Unknown Family Name>
60
1909
318/1909

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123550466

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/251603423

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/252050393

That's the right James. A native of N Ireland.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14131200?s
The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 4 Dec 1897 p.1

James had died by that date. Where is the death reg?

No birth reg found for daughter Elizabeth M.

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage not found in Ireland.

No remarriage for Emma in NSW index.

I can't find either death.

"Emma Loan" AND Tumut get no hits in Trove. Marriage has Emma and death reg for daughter has Emily. Ditto in Trove using Emily.


Marriage V185255 38C/1852 INGRAM HENRY - ALLARD HANNAH - CJ * Are they sisters?

Death 12546/1894 INGRAM HANNAH A - THOMAS T - MARY A - ST LEONARDS * 15 Mar

 

[DaveHam9]

The only Loan in Assisted to NSW is a Daniel.

??
Marriage 2312/1874 CRAMPTON WILLIAM - ALLARD EMMA - FORBES

Death for Emma Crampton?

 

[DaveHam9]

No. 147 22 Fitzroy St, North Sydney, N.S.W. February 17th 1894
John Ingram - Bachelor - North Sydney N.S.W. - Painter - 35 - Chandos St, North Sydney N.S.W. - Henry Ingram & Hannah Allard - Painter
Amelia (Sophia inserted) Loan - Spinster - Tumut N.S.W. - - - 24 - Middle St, Marrickville, N.S.W. - James Loan & Emma Allard - Brewer
Parties signed: Witnesses: Robert Charles Ingram, Amelia Emma Ingram
By me J. Bennet Anderson Officiating Minister

 

[Ellie7]

330 marriges for that church on FS
My thought was that she was Illiget and the death Father is made up,happens

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes thanks Ellie.

Handy to find the image for one. The other four marriages in my tree are not there.

Seems to be no births for the children and no deaths for James and Emma/Emily in NSW index.

 

[DaveHam9]

No Allard in Assisted to NSW list. Not even Hannah who married in NSW.

I can't find a tree.

Trove has plenty on James Loan in Tumut selling beer illegally.

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage V185255 38C/1852 INGRAM HENRY - ALLARD HANNAH - CJ= CofE Sydney St James

Page 248
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of St. James, Sydney in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1852
No. 698
Henry Ingram of this Parish Bachelor
Hannah Allard of the Parish of St. Leonards, Spinster
married in this Church by banns with consent of parents of Hannah
this twenty seventh day of January 1852 By me Chas. F. D. Priddle
Parties signed: Henry Ingram, Hannah Allard x her mark
Witnesses: John Ponsford ? of North Shore, Sarah Ann H... ??