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Ancestors of Thomas Benne, brewer in Colchester, ca. 1610

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LS,

Am from Holland and just found an ancestor from the UK: Anna Benne from Colchester, born about 1617, married in the Netherlands 1637 to Nicolaes de Cantalu. I,m pretty certain she was a daughter of Thomas Benne, brewer in Colchester. One of his sons, also named Thomas, ran a few pubs in Amsterdam in the same period. could be coincedence, but I think not. These are the questions I have:
1. When and where was Anne Benne baptized in Colchester and who were her parents?
2. If i.m right about Thomas Benne, does anybody know about his family and their ancestors.
Any comment is welcome and thanks in advace.
Kind regards, Robert
 

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Not sure if this Thomas the elder or younger but he ha d 3 son's, Thomas, James and Frederick. Brother Elizeus
https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=rolQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=Thomas+Benne,+brewer+in+Colchester&source=bl&ots=vk2aHIhrQF&sig=ACfU3U2zUO1cGD36kOIJyO-PNW6dPuGM_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj09p7p2oLqAhWSwpQKHSxRDJ0Q6AEwAnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=Thomas Benne, brewer in Colchester&f=false
Thomas's Will. Can download for free.
Reference: PROB 11/140/434 Description: Will of Thomas Benne, Brewer of Colchester, Essex Date: 18 November 1622 The National Archives, Kew

Thomas 1667.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/MFXQ-BVB
 
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Thanks for your information. Reading the google link it also seems Thomas the elder also had a brother named Elizeus. I suspect the family Benne was from Flanders. Colchester was a popular destination for people from Flanders that fled from religious percecution. The Thomas Benne from 1669 was a member of the dutch church in Colchester. This seems more evidence they originated From Flanders. Do you know if there are church records from about 1600 of the dutch church in Colchester?
 
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I'm afraid we'll hit more walls like this in the 17th century. I downloaded the will by the way, but it's not easy to decipher. Problems with wills is that they usually only mention "the kids", and no names. That's at least common practice in the Netherlands, and I already read a lot!
 

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Yes: Thomas Benne, brewer in Colchester is the father.
This Thomas Benne is the son of Thomas Benne & Margaret Swayson, who married 1574 in South Collingham [Nottinghamshire]

Below a part of the info I found

Thomas Benne x Katherine ...
the probably have the following children:

Sources I can recommend:

1. http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=1&id=459760
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Reference: D/ABW 45/86
Title: Will of Katherine Benne, widow of Thomas Benne [of St. Peter, Colchester]
Level: Category = Archdeaconry records
Level: Fonds = COMMISSARY OF BISHOP OF LONDON
Level: Sub-Fonds = WILLS
Dates of Creation: 31 July 1623
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Reference: D/DRe T13
Title: Deeds of Capital messuage, in 2 tenements, in Fryer Street, All Saints, Colchester
Level: Category = Estate and Family records
Level: Fonds = ROUND FAMILY AND RECORDS OF COLCHESTER CASTLE AND LANDS
Level: Sub-Fonds = DEEDS
Scope and Content:
[Including Probate copies of Wills of Anna Pollard, widow, 1643, Katherine Benne, widow, 1666, and James Tayspill, saymaker, 1710, all of Colchester (all proved in Court of Archdeacon of Colchester, 1644, 1666 and 1711 respectively)]
Dates of Creation: 1589-1743
Extent: 31

2. Author: Philip MORANT
The history and antiquities of the borough of Colchester, in the county of Essex,
pag e45 en 46:
and
The History and Antiquities of the Town and Borough of Colchester in Essex, in Three Books; with an Appendix of Original Papers
page 53:
................ In 1611, money was raised in this and other places by privy-seals, a method always unpopular and disagreeable. This reign abounded with patents and proclamations. Of the first kind, the following is an instance, concerning the patent of inns:
"James by the grace of God, &c. Knowe ye that We, for and in consideration of the sonnne of five poun'des of lawfull money of England well and truly paide to our use into the office of the Receiver of our rents, synes, and profitts of licenses of innkeepers, by Thomas Benne of Colchester in the county of Essex yeoman, are contented and pleased, and by these presents of our especiall grace, &c. doe give and graunte full and free liberty, license, power, and authority, unto the said Thomas Benne and his assignes during the lives of Thomas Benne the younger, and James Benne, and Frederick Benne his sonnes, and the life of the longest liver of them, to keep an Inne or common Hosterie in the house of the said Tho. Benne the elder, in Colchester aforesaid, wherein Elizeus Benne, his brother, now dwelleth, and to continue for a signe there the signe of the Shipp.
Yielding and paying therefore yearly during the said terme to us, our heirs, and successors, the yearly rent of tenne shillings of lawfull English money. The same to be paid to the handes of the Receiver of us, our heires and successors constituted and appointed to receive the same, at the feasts of the annunciation of the blessed Virgin Mary, and St. Michaell the archangel!, by even and equal portions. Provided alwaies that if the said rent be behinde and unpaid in parte or in all by the space of forty daies next after either of the said feasts wherein the same ought to be paid as aforesaid, that then this present licence to be voyd. Provided also that the said Thomas. Benne and his assignes doe. keep the assizes of bread, beere, and ale, and measures according to the lawes and statutes of this realme. And further doe observe and keep the prices of horse-meate by our Justices of assize sett downe, or from tyme to tyme to be sett downe at the generall assizes to be holden for the said county of Essex. In witnes whereof we have caused these our letters to be made patent. Witnes ourselfe at Westminster the 28th day of February, in die 17th yeere of our raigne of England, &c. Per warran' Comisionar'. Yonge and Pye."
On the back, " Intrat' die & anno infrascripto per me P. Bassano Registr' pro Rege."

5. [edited by] William Durrant Cooper, CORRESPONDING MEMBER OP THE MASSACHUSETTS HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Lists of Foreign Protestants and Aliens, Resident in England 1618-1688: From Returns in the State Paper Office, Volume 82,
Camden Society, 1862 - 119 pagina's
page 25:
............ Thomas Benne borne here of Dutch parentes; his trade a Bay and saymaker and weaver, he is now a beerebruer, a malster, a farmer, a maker of Bay cheanes and sendes them [to] Sandwch, and farmeth landes about 100£ per ann


I have a lot more, but can only use a limit of words & I don't want to take away the pleasure of finding new sources
Love to hear if this info gives your reasearch a new impuls

Best regards,

Vera
 
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