Andrew BEGG & Sarah Jane

[DaveHam9]

Birth 5299/1880 BEGG GEORGE - ANDREW SARAH JANE - NEWTOWN * 17 Mar 1880

Death 18556/1927 BEGG SARAH J - GEORGE ESTHER - GRANVILLE * 3 Oct 1927

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tue 4 Oct 1927 p.10
DEATHS
BEGG.-October 3, 1927, at her son's residence, 126 Blaxcell-street, Granville, Sarah Jane, dearly beloved wife of Andrew, and mother of William, Walter, Florrie, George, and Elsie, aged 73 years. At rest.


Death 14626/1933 BEGG ANDREW JOHN 89 YRS MOSMAN MOSMAN * 20 Sep 1933

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 21 Sep 1933 p.10
DEATHS
BEGG.-September 20, 1933, at a private hospital, Mosman, Andrew Begg, loved father of William, Walter, George, Florrie, and Elsie, aged 89 years.


Looking for the births and marriage thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This looks to be the first birth in NSW.

BEGG WILLIAM HENRY 4362/1875 ANDREW SARAH JANE - NEWTOWN

Andrew born abt 1844 and Sarah abt 1854.

Sarah Jane CAMP ??

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Presbyterian Baptism
BEGG ANDREW 710/1844 V1844710 45A JOHN CHRISTINA
BEGG ANDREW 1027/1844 V18441027 48 JOHN CHRISTINA

Death BEGG JOHN 7681/1885 JOHN AGNES - BURROWA

RC Burial BEGG CHRISTINA 101/1851 V1851101 106 AGE 30

A real mixture - RC, Wesleyan and Presbyterian and later CofE.

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Wesleyan Baptisms
CAMP SARAH J 1090/1853 V18531090 56 GEORGE ESTHER

CAMP HEZEKIAH 2137/1854 V18542137 56 GEORGE ESTHER


First marriage not in NSW index. John remarried.

36/1853 V185336 46 BEGG JOHN - McFARLANE EUPHEMIA - JA


John BEGG & Christina (nee CRAIG) arrived in NSW by 1842.

Can't find a baptism for either of them on SP.

 

[DaveHam9]

John Begg
Spouse's Name Christina Begg
Ship Name 'New York Packet'
Volume 52

1841

Nothing else on the record. No age or place of origin. Not even the date and place of arrival.

Arrival not on one shipping list and another list does not start until 1845.

August 1841
... from Scotland- New York Packet, 685 tons, Crawford, emigrants; ...

The Sydney Herald (NSW : 1831 - 1842) Mon 25 Oct 1841 Page 2 SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.
ARRIVALS.
[...on Saturday last ...]
From Greenock, same day, having left the 8th
of July, the ship New York Packet, Captain
Downing, with 284 emigrants. Passengers—
Miss Brodie, and fourteen intermediate.

-In consequence of several
cases of small pox being on board, the 'New
York Packet' has been placed in quarantine.

12 died on the voyage.

Most of the passengers were released from quarantine on 21 Dec. Cost to the colony of keeping the vessel in quarantine that long - £750.

 

[DaveHam9]

The marriage of Andrew to Sarah Jane ??

 

[Bootzy]

SMH – Mon 20 April 1874 - MARRIAGES.
BEGG—CAMP.—April 8, at the Wesleyan Chapel, Chippendale, by the Rev. Joseph Oram, Andrew, second son of John Begg, to Sarah Jane, eldest daughter of George Camp, both of Newtown.

Off a Tree headstone for Andrew’s father..
In Memory of John Begg – builder, late of Sydney. Born at Hamilton Scotland, grand nephew of Burn’s Poet died Rye Park Oct 16 1885 aged 64 years Also Christina (nee Craig) beloved wife of the above, daughter of Andrew Craig born Princes St Glasgow Died Sydney May 11th 1851 in her 31st year.

Name Andrew Begg
Birth Date 1844
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1844
Registration Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father John Begg
Mother Christina
Volume Number V1844710 45A

Name Sarah J Camp
Birth Date 1853
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1853
Registration Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father George Camp
Mother Esther
Volume Number V18531090 56

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

On Thursday or Friday at the local library I'll look up the baptisms and the burial.

The marriage is probably on film at the Mitchell Library.

Oram, Joseph. Wesleyan Church, Regent Street, Sydney;
Wesleyan Parsonage, Cleveland Street; Wesleyan
Church, Chippendale and private residences;
Reels 0227 and 0229.

Usually the records are sorted and filmed by parish but the Wesleyan ones are sorted by minister and filmed as such.


NSW index has John's death as 17th. I will email NSW BDM. I'm still waiting for answers to queries from September.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - ST. GEORGE - ROCKDALE POLLING-PLACE
BEGG Andrew, Farr-street, watchman
BEGG Sarah Jane, Farr-street, domestic duties
BEGG George Alfred, Farr-street, packer
BEGG Agnes Florence, Farr-street, domestic duties


Agnes Florence = Florrie

Birth reg for George Alfred has just George.

 

[Bootzy]

Evening News – Fri 23 Oct 1885
BEGG.— October 16, at his residence, Bye Park, Burrowa, in his 64th year, John Begg, late of Sydney, builder,native of Hamilton, Scotland ; eldest son of the late John Begg, of Glasgow, and grand nephew of the poet Burns, leaving a widow four sons and one daughter to mourn their loss.

Death of 2nd wife
Name Euphemia Begg
Death Date 1896
Death Place New South Wales
Father's Name Neil
Mother's Name Euphemia
Registration Year 1896
Registration Place Granville New South Wales
Registration Number 9965

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 15165/1914 BEGG GEORGE A - WILSON JESSIE F I - ROCKDALE * 3 Oct 1914 * Not CofE PR

1937 NSW Electoral Roll - Reid - Granville
BEGG George Alfred, 126 Blaxcell street, traveller
BEGG Violet Jessie, 126 Blaxcell street, home duties

Jessie remarried.

Marriage 17992/1937 LEE REGINALD ARTHUR - BEGG JESSIE FLORENCE - GRANVILLE * 2 Oct 1937 * Not CofE PR

 

[Bootzy]

Name Agnes A F Begg
Spouse Name Robert B Pearsall
Marriage Date 1913
Marriage Place New South Wales
Registration Place Rockdale New South Wales
Registration Year 1913
Registration Number 10366

Name Agnes Alice Florence Pearsall
Death Date 19 Oct 1965
Cemetery Point Clare Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Point Clare, Central Coast Council, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio? N
URL https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149280268

Aust Cemetery Index has: Point Clare Cemetery - Grave 14 & 15
In Loving Memory of Florence Agnes Pearsall died 9 )ct 1965 aged 83 years and Robert Burns Pearsall died 1st August 1972 aged 89 years – At Rest

 

[Bootzy]

Name Violet Jessie Begg
Spouse Name Leslie Edward Buffett
Marriage Date 1938
Marriage Place New South Wales
Registration Place Granville New South Wales
Registration Year 1938
Registration Number 19369

2nd marriage
24896/1950 CHRISTIAN ARTHUR ROLESTOP – BUFFETT VIOLET JESSIE – PETERSHAM

Tree has her death 2000 Mackay Qld – both she and Arthur are on 1980 Er for Mackay Qld

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

I found a tree that had birth dates in Scotland for John and Christina but could not confirm them on ScotlandsPeople.

Birth BEGG VIOLET J 17479/1915 GEORGE A JESSIE F - PETERSHAM

That's a daughter.

I just realised Jessie remarried before George died.

Divorce George Alfred Begg - Jessie Florence Isabella Begg
Start date: 23 Mar 1936 End date: 06 Sep 1937


I'll resume this tomorrow.

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Name Christian Craig
Gender Female
Birth Date 23 Aug 1820
Birth Place , Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father Andrew Craig
Mother Janet King
FHL Film Number 0102917, 0102918, 1042938, 0994179


1841 census
Name John Begg
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Gender Male
Where born Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil parish Glasgow St Pauls
County Lanarkshire
Address Dean Side Lean
Occupation Joiner I
Parish Number 644/1
Household Members
Name Age
John Begg 45
Agness Begg 45
John Begg 20
Robert Begg 18
Jean Begg 15
William Begg 8
James Begg 5

 

[horse]

John BEGG & Christina (nee CRAIG) arrived in NSW by 1842.

Can't find a baptism for either of them on SP.

Possible for John, would fit with death and notice..

SP:
BEGG JOHN
Parents = JOHN BEGG/AGNES WILSON
08/04/1821
Hamilton

Geoff

EDIT: SP has Christian's birth as post #15.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

I'm sure I entered the right details in SP for John Begg.

I know I entered Christina not Christian so missed that one.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I have the baptisms, marriage and burial now from local library to post tonight.

Burial V1851101 106/1851 BEGG CHRISTINA AGE 30

Burials in connection with the Scots Church corner of Pitt & Bathurst Sts in the City of Sydney
No. - Christina Begg Age: 30 years Abode: Sydney When Died: - When Buried: 13th May 1851 Ship's Name: - Quality or Profession: Wife of John Begg, Carpenter By whom the Ceremony was performed: D. Blair

Very unusual heading with no Parish or County mentioned. I think that is a breakaway Presbyterian Church and not a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland.

 

[DaveHam9]

Very unusual. JA = Presbyterian Scots Church Sydney but this marriage is not actually one of that set.

Marriage V185336 46/1853 BEGG JOHN - McFARLANE EUPHEMIA - JA

Page 10
Presbyterian Marriages solemnized in the Parish of - in the County of Cumberland in the Year 1853
No. 38
I, Euphemia McFarlane, Spinster, do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Presbyterian Church [of Scotland - crossed out] [signed] -
I, - do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Presbyterian Church of Scotland [signed] -
I, William Grant, of Sydney, Ordained Minister of the Free Church, do hereby certify that John Begg, Widower, of Sydney and Euphemia McFarlane, Spinster, of Sydney, were joined together in Wedlock by me on the Twelfth day of September 1853, at Riley Street Sydney, in the presence of Daniel Angus Kent Street North, Wm. Robert Orr South Head Road, Witnesses.
None signed. [signed] - Minister

Not a single signature. I don't think that was in a church. Possibly a private residence. The previous marriage was at Fort Street Sydney, again not a Church.