Andrew McLaren MENZIES

[DaveHam9]

Looking for the birth in Victoria around 1888 of Andrew McLaren MENZIES and deaths of his parents.

NSW Marriage 10187/1916 MENZIES ANDREW McL - TURNER ELLA V - JUNEE

NSW Birth 29506/1888 FURNER ELLA V - FRANCIS W - SARAH - WAGGA WAGGA

1954 NSW Electoral Roll - Hume - Temora
MENZIES Ella Victoria, 25 View street, home duties
MENZIES Andrew McLaren, 25 View street, farmer and grazier

??
1977 QLD Maranoa -
1980 QLD Maranoa -
MENZIES Andrew McLaren,

??
1968 VIC Kooyong -
1977 VIC Kooyong -
1980 NSW Richmond -
MENZIES Ella Victoria,


I have not found their deaths.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

This one rings a bell :biggrin:

Andrew McLaren Menzies
Father: Robert Menzies
Mother: Rose Zullah Trevaskis
Birth Place: Kyabram, Victoria
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4174

Geoff

 

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Rose Z Menzies
Death Date: 1924
Death Place: New South Wales
Father: Richard
Mother: Jane
Registration Year: 1924
Registration Place: Junee, New South Wales
Registration Number: 3675

 

[horse]

There is a tree that has Robert's death 1935 Rannock (close to Rose's POD), can't see it. There is this, however.

Robert Menzies
Death Date: 1935
Death Place: New South Wales
Father: Andrew Mcl
Mother: Margaret
Registration Year: 1935
Registration Place: Penrith, New South Wales
Registration Number: 1543

Geoff

Can't be certain this is the correct Robert. There this in the Index to Deceased Estate Files, Springwood (close to Penrith) 1835, Ret. Farmer. Administrator, D M Menzies. Possibly Daisy Marion.

 

[horse]

Sands has him in Rannock the year Rose died...

Name/Business Name: Robert Menzies
Year: 1924
District: Rannock
Page No: 1408
[On his own. Occ: Farmer]

 

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Andrew Mclaren Menzies
Electoral Year: 1963
State: Queensland
District: Darling Downs
Subdistrict: Toowoomba West
[With Ellen Victoria. No occ. or former occ. given]

 

[horse]

Can't see Andrew Mcl. (Darling Downs) after 1963. There is another living in Chinchilla (Maranoa) with a Gwen, so that is unlikely to be him as they can be found at the same time as Andrew/Ellen (Ella).

Don't know what to make of this..

Ella Victoria Menzies
Electoral Year: 1980
State: New South Wales
District: Richmond
Sub district: Tweed
[On her own. Add: 1 Solander Ct. Solander St]

Or this...

Name: Ella Victoria Menzies
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Hume
Sub district: Temora
[With Andrew Mclaren. Farmer/Grazier. Add: 25 View Street]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Well, yes and no. :biggrin:

Yes we have seen Rose Zilla Trevaskis before and no, I can't sort out the death or the E/R.

I had no idea Andrew was a brother of Rose's daughter Rose:

Vic. Birth 35856/1889 MENZIES Rose Zillah - Robt - Rose Zillah Grevaskis - Wangaratta

NSW Marriage 2534/1912 TURNER GEORGE J F W - MENZIES ROSE Z - NARRANDERA

1949 NSW Electoral Roll - Riverina - Temora
FURNER Rose Zillah, The Echoes, Coolamon, home duties

So siblings married siblings.


Temora, Narrandera, Junee are all south western NSW.

 

[horse]

So siblings married siblings.

Took me a while work out :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Rannock is between Coolamon, Junee and Temora.

 

[horse]

On balance, New South Wales is where they spent their later lives

 

[DaveHam9]

Does not mean he died in Rannock:

MENZIES ROBERT M 26/05/1935 75: RANNOCK - TRADITIONAL SECTION 579 0 : 2851

MENZIES ROSE ZILAH M 25/02/1924 60:00 RANNOCK - TRADITIONAL SECTION METHODIST 1 5 341 0 : 2879

Age

They are not in the same grave and not even in the same section.


Birth in Vic.
Surname: MENZIES
Given Names: Unnamed
Event: B
Father: Andrew
Mother: Margaret McGREGOR
Birth Place: CLUN
Year: 1860
Reg Number: 2891

Parents names the same in 1935 death and age in burial record agrees with that 1860 birth.

 

[horse]

Does not mean he died in Rannock:

I agree... It's a question of step-by-step and taking out the chaff from the wheat. Menzies is not uncommon and there are a few of each forenames in contention. But, given time and patience, I suspect it can be worked out :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

They are together in 1954 in Temora but after that they don't seem to be together.

Son
Service Record
Name MENZIES, ANDREW McLAREN
Service Australian Army
Service Number N439604
Date of Birth 27 Sep 1921
Place of Birth WAGGA WAGGA, NSW
Date of Enlistment 13 Nov 1941
Locality on Enlistment ARIAH PARK, NSW
Place of Enlistment ARIAH PARK, NSW
Next of Kin MENZIES, ANDREW
Date of Discharge 25 Sep 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 18 BATTALION VOLUNTEER DEFENCE CORPS PART TIME DUTY
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

 

[horse]

They are together in 1954 in Temora but after that they don't seem to be together.

I couldn't find a death either, I loosely looked in TROVE without success..

 

[DaveHam9]

No, neither in Ryerson.

I can't see any divorce record.


Return to this when we get to 'F' :biggrin: