Anne BROOKS

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NSW Marriage V1840673 24B/1840 SAUNDERSON JOHN - BROOKS ANN - NA= CofE Scone

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Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Scone in the County of Brisbane in the Year 1840
No. 5
John Sanderson Bachelor of Cassilis County of Durham
Ann Brooks Spinster of do.
married at Muswell Brook by Banns with consent of Guardian
Fifth day of July 1840 By me John Morse A.M. ? Chaplain of Scone
Parties: John signed and Ann by her mark
Witnesses: Wm Shimpkin [signed], Ann Leonard by x mark, both of Muswell Brook

NSW Death 11749/1896 SANDERSON ANNE - ROBERT UNKNOWN - TEMORA * 10 Jul 1896

Evening News (Sydney, NSW) - Thu 23 Jul 1896 p.5
Temora News.
An old resident of this district, known as "Granny" Sanderson, died on the 10th instant, aged 94. She retained her faculties to the last. Mrs. Sanderson and her late husband formerly kept the Broken Dam Hotel, a few miles from here.

Consent of Guardian is rather odd. John was born abt 1797 and Anne about 1802. ??

 

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married at Muswell Brook by Banns with consent of Guardian
Fifth day of July 1840 By me John Morse A.M. ? Chaplain of Scone
Parties: John signed and Ann by her mark
Witnesses: Wm Shimpkin [signed], Ann Leonard by x mark, both of Muswell Brook

Consent of Guardian is rather odd.

Maybe Ann was underaged and her age at death is wrong?
Going by age at death she would have been around 38 when she married.

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure where the error is, gibbo.

 

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When did John die?

 

[DaveHam9]

John was a convict and some trees have his death in 1880.

Not in NSW index.

 

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Ok question, is the Broken Dam Hotel the same as the Beehive Hotel ?

Broken Dam is a location so if the Hotel at that location was called "Beehive" then it's the right death for the Anne who married John. So 'consent of Guardian' is rather odd given her age.

 

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Mr Sanderson built the " Beehive " Hotel, later known as the " Broken Dam " Hotel,

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/209509862

 

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Publicans’ Licenses Index 1830-1861

John not listed.

 

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Something is not right.

That's Thomas not John.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 17 Sep 1930 p.12
DEATH OF MR. T. SANDERSON, ARIAH PARK, Tuesday.
Thomas Sanderson, a pioneer of the district died last night at the age of 81. He settled at Ariah Park in 1863, and was the first to select land in the district. He was proprietor of the Broken Dam Hotel when bushrangers held up the hotel. He is survived by Mrs. Sanderson, four sons and two daughters.

Thomas is a son.

Roman Catholic Baptisms in the Parish of Yass in the County of Murray 1850
Thomas - John Sanderson & Anne Brookes Abode: Curiong Quality or Profession: Overseer When Born: March 18th 1849 When Baptised: January 15th 1850 By whom the Ceremony was performed: P. Magennis RC Minister

 

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Then whose this one?? This one would have to be the grandson of Thomas born 1849/1850.

• Lachlander and Condobolin and Western Districts Recorder (NSW : 1899 - 1952)
  Thu 25 Aug 1938

The deceased was 60 years of age and was born at the old Broken Dam Hotel, conducted by his late father.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/214144036

 

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A grandson of John the convict and son of Thomas.

His mother nee Barnes.

NSW Death 20738/1941 SANDERSON ISABELLA REBECCA - JOSEPH - ELIZABETH - MARRICKVILLE

Albury Banner Wodonga Express and Riverina Stock Journal (NSW) - Fri 22 Aug 1941 p.6
DEATHS
SANDERSON.-On August 10, at Dulwich Hill, Sydney, Isabella Rebecca Sanderson, of Ariah Park, 89.

 

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I think the problem is that Thomas built the hotel but that his father the holder of the license although not on the list for some reason.

Born just after the marriage.

4353/1876 SANDERSON THOMAS - BARNES ISABELLA - WAGGA WAGGA * 10 May

NSW Birth SANDERSON THOMAS 23343/1878 THOMAS - ISABELLA REBECCA - WAGGA WAGGA

 

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Well they not making it easy

 

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Shame no mention of who the Guardian was.
Ok my take on it is, she was underaged hence Guardian and no family around otherwise one would think a family member would have been a witness.??

 

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Just found this.

Anne Brooks, b. 1802, Crookstown Co. Rosecommon, England, d. 10 July 1896, Broken Dam, NSW(near Ariah Park)

Roscommon, Ireland.

If she was one year under age then age at death would be 76 not 94 ??

 

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Yeah i seen something along them lines yesterday but im not entirely convinced of her year of birth.. just yet
What year was her last child born?

 

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https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/...781/Crusader_15 Jan 1840/4_478100011.jpg&No=8
NRS5313/4_4781/Crusader_15 Jan 1840/
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTC7-1YL?


House servant age 18 from Crookstown.

Age at death 20 years out ?

Single Females
1 Boooks Anne 18 Crookstown House Servant R Catholic Capt. Mayne Parramatta £15 year With rations

 

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Yes the 20 year gap is a bit of a hiccup but then would depend on who the informant was and/or who did the death notice.

 

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Or an error in the newspaper. We only have one notice so far.

The Daily Telegraph also has 94.

 

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Thomas SANDERSON 15/09/1930 near Temora 09/12/1930 Occupation: farmer Pre A 053482 [20/1489]

Thomas SANDERSON 13/08/1938 Ariah Park 17/01/1939 or Thomas Alfred. Occupation: farmer Pre A 125877 [20/2397]