Anne & Charlotte REILLY/RILEY

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Marriage V1848134 84/1848 SALMON BENJAMIN G - REILLY ANN IA= Wesleyan Methodist Sydney

Benjamin Grist Salmon Bachelor of Sydney
Ann Riley Spinster of Sydney
Married in Princes St Chapel Sydney by License with consent of Friends
21 Jun 1848 By me Nath. Turner
Witnesses: Rachael Leering ?, Charlotte Riley (her x mark)

I'm assuming Charlotte is a sister. Parents should be Hugh & Susan.

Family from Co Cavan, Ireland. I don't know yet if Hugh and Susan also came to Australia.

SALMON Anne Death notice 11SEP1902 Death 75 late of Sydney SMH 12SEP1902

So Anne was born abt 1827 in Ireland. I don't have a death for Charlotte yet.


Dave

 

[gibbo]

The girls were in the care of William Richardson and his wife on the ship.
Ann was 16 but here's Charlotte's travel doc.

 

[DaveHam9]

That's great, thanks gibbo.

 

[gibbo]

Do you have anything on Charlotte at all? I cant find a marriage that would appear to be her yet i found a marriage notice that maybe her??

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Tuesday 29 August 1848
MARRIED.
By license, at Prince-street Chapel, by the Rev. N. Turner, Mr. Augustus Olbrecht to Miss Charlotte Riley, both of George-street, Sydney.

 

[gibbo]

Do you have anything on Charlotte at all? I cant find a marriage that would appear to be her yet i found a marriage notice that maybe her??

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Tuesday 29 August 1848
MARRIED.
By license, at Prince-street Chapel, by the Rev. N. Turner, Mr. Augustus Olbrecht to Miss Charlotte Riley, both of George-street, Sydney.

Edited.. Found the marriage, they have Charlotte with 3 T's in her name No wonder nothing was showing up

V1848138 84/1848 OLBRECHT AUGUSTUS RILEY CHARLOTTTE IA

 

[gibbo]

OH!

The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893)
Saturday 13 April 1850 page 2

DEPARTURES.

APRIL 7.—Una, ship, Captain Causzar, 793 tons, for California. Passengers—Messrs. Wil- liam Tredwen, surgeon, Alfred Hearn, Thomas Armstrong, James Henry Olliff, John Morris, Mrs. Maria J. Morris, Miss Margaret Morris, Miss Maria Morris, Miss Theresa Morris, Mrs. Shaw, Mrs. Elizabeth Bunnacle, Mr. Augustus Olbrecht, Mrs. Charlotte Olbrecht, Master Augustus Olbrecht, Miss Grace Olbrecht, Mr. James Harrison, Mrs. Harrison, Mr. James Thompson, Miss Harrison, etc etc

 

[gibbo]

This is REALLY strange It should be Charlotte not Annie

1870
Name: Augustus Olbrecht
Birth Year (Estimated): 1815
Age : 55y
Birthplace: Prussia
California, United States
Augustus Olbrecht 55y Prussia
Annie Olbrecht F 55y Ireland
Grace Olbrecht F 25y Australia
Cathrain Taylor F 25y Ireland

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Not just the name but the age is out too going by age for Charlotte on shipping record.

It has to be sister Charlotte - married in same Wesleyan church by the same minister. I'll look that one up next week and check the witnesses.

 

[gibbo]

Thanks gibbo.

Not just the name but the age is out too going by age for Charlotte on shipping record.

Maybe Charlotte died and he remarried?

 

[DaveHam9]

Can only see these two birth reg withiout checking for other spellings:

V1849332 58/1849 OLBRECHT EBENEZER C A - AUGUSTUS - CHARLOTTE
V1848332 68/1848 OLBRECHT EBENEZER C A - AUGUSTUS - CHARLOTTE

 

[gibbo]

I wonder if the Ebenezer is actually Master Augustus on the passenger departures.
I cant find a reg. for Grace. Maybe if she was only a new born when they left they may not have reg. her.

 

[gibbo]

This is REALLY strange It should be Charlotte not Annie

1870
Name: Augustus Olbrecht
Birth Year (Estimated): 1815
Age : 55y
Birthplace: Prussia
California, United States
Augustus Olbrecht 55y Prussia
Annie Olbrecht F 55y Ireland
Grace Olbrecht F 25y Australia
Cathrain Taylor F 25y Ireland

If the above Grace was 25 in 1870 that would make her birth around 1845, 3 years before parents marriage Maybe their ages were rounded off and that is why they are out of whack. I dont have full access to the census to see what the relationship was amongst them.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, possibly rounded but seems rounded up not down like the 1841 English census.


At least shipping record confirms Co Cavan and parents Hugh and Susan. I looked previously and didn't find a baptism for Anne or Charlotte or a marriage for Hugh & Susan in Ireland.

 

[gibbo]

Any more for this one Dave?

 

[DaveHam9]

No, I think we are done, thanks.

 

[gibbo]

Your welcome :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage V1848138 84/1848 OLBRECHT AUGUSTUS RILEY CHARLOTTTE IA=Wesleyan

I, Augustus Olbrecht do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Wesleyan Church
I, Chealotte Riley (her x mark) do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the - Church
I, Nathaniel Turner of Sydney, Minister of Wesleyan Chapel, do hereby certify that Augusts Olbrecht (Widower), of Sydney and Charlotte Riley, Spinster, of Sydney, were joined together in Wedlock by me on the Twentieth eighth day of August by License 1848, at Princes Street Chapel, in the presence of Richard Leer..ing ?, P... ? Johnson ?
[signed] Nathl. Turner Wesleyan Minister