Annie SHIELDS

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Not with Zaccheus in 1861, no remarriage that fits, no death that fits, and no children ?

I'm going to try and match the children with birth reg in Kent and London 1855-1870 to parents if I can.

 

[horse]

I couldn't see anything with their birth reg's apart from John who could be a Shields... Rechar may be an Irish name, I wondered if mistranscribed and should be Richard?

I suppose emigration is not out of the question

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know about any others leaving England.

Of the 9 with birth reg 1855-1870 I can account for only 1.

Births Jun 1869
GANDON Herbert Kensington 1a 38

Son of Robert Thomas, son of Zaccheus & Amelia.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, can't find anything that fits. I thought of Rachel and Richard and tried to follow Patrick. Might have found the marriage and death for John.

Oh. I forgot to do Surrey.

Births Sep 1856
Gandon Walter Harold Bermondsey 1d 50

Son of Isaac & Isabel.

 

[horse]

This John is also interesting, he was bap. 1863, on the original it says abode Peterborough.. I also recognise one of the signatures for godparents, but can't place it yet.

Q2 1862 GANDON John Peterbro' 3b 217 [I think that should be Q1 on the bap. entry it says b. 20 March 1862]

This is the bap.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John W Gandon
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Jul 1863
Father's Name: Charles Gandon
Mother's name: Emma Gandon
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

 

[horse]

Peterborough John's school...

1871 England Census about John Gandon
Name: John Gandon
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough
Civil parish: Guildford St Mary
Town: Guildford
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Guildford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 17
Piece: 812
Folio: 7
Page Number: 5

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Perhaps not registered until April.

Don't know where a Charles would fit in.


8 birth reg in Kent and London 1855-1870 I can't match to parents yet.

The two in Pancras to Henry Annesley (b. 1823 Ireland) & Elizabeth

Leaves these:

William Faversham 1859 ??

Rebecca Sophia Medway 1865 ??

Thomas Joseph Kensington 1865 ??

Florence Marian Hackney 1869 ??

Richard George W Medway 1870 ??

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Charles Gandon
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Jul 1837
Christening Place: SPITALFIELDS CHRIST CHURCH,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Jonas Gandon
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Clarissa
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06969-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 592621, 592622, 592623
Reference ID:

 

[horse]

The 3 main areas for the Gandon's appears to be Kent: Faversham, Greenwich and Medway (district)... And of course those around the London area (Middlesex/Surrey).

I tried work out Jonas earlier, b. abt. 1789, son Charles b.abt 1811, the one you found must be the son..

 

[DaveHam9]

Yeah, I don't know how Jonas fits in either.

 

[horse]

Nor me, must be a different branch, though I suspect related in some way.

There is a William Shields in the E/R for 1858 in Tower Hamlets, a stone's throw from Greenwich. They only list the head, so if Ann is with him we wouldn't know, strange we can't find them in 1861

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: William Shield
Year: 1858
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Street Address: 6, Walter-street

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

With names like Hager, Isaac, Jabez, then Jonas would fit somewhere. No definite siblings or parents for Peter.

 

[horse]

Of course we are basing our searches on the fact that Ann/ie says she was a spinster, Zaccheus died 6 years after their marriage aged about 56y, so he was about 50y when he married her. Age gaps not unheard of but...

 

[horse]

Ann was living in Dartmouth Hill, the next street to Zaccheus, when they married. If she had moved to the area to meet the banns criteria she would have probably given his address: Blackheath Hill, so it is probable that was her place of residence, yet no sign in the census.

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage just says 'Full' for age and father listed as William Shields.

I can't find a baptism or a tree for Rebecca Sophia b. 1865 and Richard George W b.1870 reg in Medway.

Lots of the Australian records have the name as GAUDON but does not seem to be so in England.

A son of Richard George - HERE

 

[horse]

Says 'Spinster' on the entry..

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes.

I'm stuck. Not finding anything else that might help.

 

[horse]

Me neither, just idly going through trees, nothing to help there either...

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't even find Richard George W b. 1870 in 1881.

Found Florence Marian:

RG11 Piece/Folio 739 / 113 Page 4
Name: Florence M Gandon (Ganson)
Age (Original): 11
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1870
Birthplace: London, London, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: Aberdalgie Lodge Bell Green
Event Place: Lewisham, Kent, England
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Charles Ganson M 43 London, London, Middlesex, England
Wife Emma Ganson F 40 London, London, Middlesex, England
Son John Ganson M 19 Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England
Daughter Emma Gandon (Ganson) F 17 Asia
Daughter Florence M Gandon (Ganson) F 11 London, London, Middlesex, England
Daughter Maude H Gandon (Ganson) F 9 India
Son Harold W Gandon (Ganson) M 7 London, London, Middlesex, England
Son Reginald A Gandon (Ganson) M 3 Sydenham, Kent, England
Son Philip G Gandon (Ganson) M 2 Sydenham, Kent, England
Sister In Law Louisa Knights F 38 London, London, Middlesex, England
Servant Eleanor A L Thompson F 23 London, London, Middlesex, England

 

[horse]

No, the first I can find him without trying too hard is 1911..