Annie SHIELDS

[horse]

He joined the Royal Navy as an Ordinary Seaman on 5th July 1828 at Chatham. His Majesty's ship Crocodile's papers describe him as a Painter by trade, 5 ft 2 inches in height, of fair complexion and with Dark Hair and Eyes.

I won't post the full story but Andrew was discharged in Sydney from HMS Crocodile in 1829. Somehow a convict got hold of the discharge papers and used them and Andrew's name to marry.

I bet that caused some problems

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. The convict remained at large for several years before being found out and charged before the court.

Andrew named a son Peter.

 

[horse]

There is this, may be worth checking if any descendants have Asplin as a middle name

Peter Gandon
Marriage Date: 21 Jul 1765
Marriage Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Spouse: Mary Asplin
FHL Film Number: 1751866

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I have not seen Asplin in any of the names I have. The only odd one I have as a first and for another a middle name, is Newman.

 

[DaveHam9]

COLEMAN Sarah age 17
With Thomas Coleman
'Marianne' 30 May 1832


Marriage V183380 126/1833 GANDON ANDREW - FLOOD SARAH

RC St Mary's Sydney Page 13
No. 80
14 October 1833 I married
Andrew Gandon per Crocodile
Sarah Flood per Maria Ann
Witnesses: Thomas Coleman, William Whilan ?, Catherine Whilan ?
Rev. John McEncroe


Name: Sarah GANDON
Date of Death: 9 Jun 1875
Place: 9 William Lane, Off Bourke Street Woolloomooloo NSW
Occupation: Domestic
***: Female
Age: 61
Conjugal Status:
Place of Birth: Dublin
Time in Aust Colonies: 43 years in NSW
Father: Thomas COLEMAN
Occupation: Painter
Mother: Mary WARD
Place of Marriage: Sydney
Age at Marriage: 19
Name of Spouse: Andrew GANDON


FLOOD is a mystery. Not mother's maiden name and not name on shipping record.

 

[horse]

FLOOD is a mystery. Not mother's maiden name and not name on shipping record.

The 'Marianne' has the family crossed out, including Sarah

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I think this shows Thomas was on the vessel. :biggrin:

The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) - Tuesday 12 June 1832 p.3
WE, the Passengers of the Brig Marianne, beg leave publicly to express our approbation of and gratitude to Captain Kenneth M'Kenzie for his uniform good and seaman-like conduct, in navigating the vessel during our voyage from England. We also particularly have to return our most heartfelt thanks to Mr. John Pearson Rowe, Surgeon, for his zeaous and kind attention to the wants of the very frequent sick, -publicly express our good opinion of his professional talent, and wish we were able to reward him better than now our humble means afford.-Yours.
Given on board the Marianne,
THOMAS COLEMAN, Secretary.

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Monday 15 December 1856 p.4
DIED.
On Friday evening, 12th instant, at his residence, Dale-street, Chippendale, after a protracted illness, Thomas Coleman, painter, aged 74 years.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 31 January 1863 p.1
DEATHS
On the 27th January, in the 76th year of her age, Mary Coleman, relict of the late Thomas Coleman, house painter, an old and respected colonist, leaving a numerous family to lament their loss.

 

[horse]

I think this shows Thomas was on the vessel. :biggrin:

How strange.. but yes.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

A painter married the daughter of a house painter

We have gone off on a tangent but well short of post #64.

 

[horse]

A painter married the daughter of a house painter

We have gone off on a tangent but well short of post #64.

Yep, still some leeway to catch up :biggrin:

I suppose we have to try and work out why Flood, there's no obvious marriage, though she was only abt 19y when she mar. Andrew

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

It's not an error in the index becasue it is Flood on the film of the church register. That is a Volume past 123 so it's from a different set of films. A set that is a true copy of the register. The Vol 1 - 123 set of films is a copy of the form, with some details from the register, that the church had to send to the Registrar General.

 

[DaveHam9]

This is all I can find but being a Vol past 123 I can't look them up.

Burials
V1831388 127/1831 FLOOD PATRICK
V1831390 127/1831 FLOOD PATRICK
V1831370 128/1831 FLOOD PATRICK

 

[horse]

Reg place = Sydney, otherwise nothing new..

Patrick Flood
Death Date: 1831
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1831
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1831388 127

Patrick Flood
Death Date: 1831
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1831
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1831370 128

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't even look them up to see if they are RC.

 

[horse]

The only mar. I can see is this..

Patrick Flood
Spouse: Mary Donovan
Marriage Date: 1823
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1823
Volume Number: V

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't look it up at local library but it is RC St Mary's Sydney - same church as Andrew & Sarah.

72/1823 V182372 128 FLOOD PATRICK DONOVAN MARY LD
74/1823 V182374 127 FLOOD PATRICK DONOVAN MARY LD

Next time I get to the Mitchell Library I'll browse the film of the marriage register. That might have to be early May. I'm very busy for the next 3 weeks.

 

[horse]

Ok, Dave.. will sleep on it, speak later.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.