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Another MARTIN family

DaveHam9

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Hello crankypants,

A different MARTIN family.

Samuel MARTIN b. abt 1865 ? Creswick d. 1934 ?

married 1890 Creswick

Delphine May DOUGLAS b. abt 1869 Wimmera d. 1935 Melbourne

E/R 1903 & 1906 Perth, WA ? 1924 Kooyong 1931 Balaclava

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

I'm not sure but I hope this is the right one:

Possible birth and death for Samuel MARTIN to parents James & Bridget nee HYDE. Born 1865 (reg 22803), died 1934 in Elwood aged 68 (reg 6902).

James & Bridget married in Melbourne in 1849.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954) Wednesday 8 August 1934 p 1 Family Notices
DEATH NOTICE (AGE sixty-eight)


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Samuel Martin
Father's name: James Martin
Mother's name: Bridget Hyde
Birth Place: King, Victoria
Registration Year: 1865
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 22803


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1949
Name: Saml Martin
Spouse Name: May Delphine Douglas
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Number: 7291


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Lionel Sam Douglas Martin
Father's name: Sam Martin
Mother's name: Delphine May Douglas
Birth Place: Caulfield, Victoria
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11938


Two trees have parents as James & Bridget.

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

Do we have something that proves the trees are correct? Such as parent and son together in E/R :D (unlikely) or ...

I'd better go get a copy of the death notice. :)

Ok, it took me ages to get the notice to come up. :D I'll accept that as proof. :)

Lionel was the first of 4 children.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I was joking about the parents in the E/R. The death notice did the trick. ;)

George Leonard Douglas MARTIN b. 1901 Subiaco

E/R 1924 & 1936 Kooyong & Balaclava
E/R 1942 & 1954 Flinders

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

1936 VIC Electoral Roll - Balaclava - St Kilda Central
MARTIN Ronald Hampton Douglas, 181 Brighton rd., teacher
MARTIN Aline Boyne Bland, 181 Brighton rd., home duties

1943 VIC Electoral Roll - Kooyong - Camberwell
MARTIN Ronald Hampton Douglas, 132 Toorak rd., E.6, teacher

Ronald and Boyne both died after 1980. I have their deaths.

E/R 1931 Balaclava

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

1936 VIC Electoral Roll – Batman – Northcote
PEARCE Ethel Vivienne, 177 Fulham rd., home duties
PEARCE Louisa, 177 Fulham rd., home duties

Louisa died in Smiths Gully in 1947.

Please see if you can find Louisa in 1942. Thanks.

I'm having problems finding Smiths Gully in E/R in 1942. Of course Louisa may have moved from Northcote after 1942. ???

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. I doubt very much it's Ballarat for Louisa. And not Corio either.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954) - Saturday 30 August 1947 p.11
DEATHS
PEARCE.-On August 10, at Goldmans rd., Smith's Gully, Louisa, wife of the late William A. Pearce, loving mother of Arthur and Ethel (Mrs. Griffiths), grandmother of Wilma, aged 77 years.

First of 2 children:

Arthur George PEARCE b. 1892 Northcote d. 1956 Hartwell ?

1914 VIC Electoral Roll – Bourke – Ivanhoe
PEARCE Arthur George, Maltravers rd., Ivanhoe, jeweller

1919 VIC Electoral Roll – Batman - Delbridge
PEARCE Arthur George, 179 McKean st., N. F., postal assistant

N. F. = North Fitzroy :)

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hello crankypants,

Enlisted Melbourne, Vic. 24 Feb 1915 - S/N 638 23rd Bn - 22 yrs Jeweller - NOK father Pearce William Arthur living at Maltravers Rd Ivanhoe, Vic. - Embarked HMAT A14 'Euripides' 10 May 1915 - Served at Gallipoli - Hospital for hernia - Returned to Australia - Discharged 8 Jun 1916
Imperial War Graves Commission asked by NOK on 23 Aug 1956 to place ashes of ex-serviceman.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Oh, he didn't stay a jeweller.

A sibling.

Ethel Vivian PEARCE b. 1894 Northcote d. 1962 ?

1919 VIC Electoral Roll – Batman - Delbridge
PEARCE Ethel Vivienne, 179 McKean st., N. Fitzroy, home duties

married in Vic. probably

GRIFFITHS ??

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

The marriage was either and/or very late and/or in another state:

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954) - Saturday 30 August 1947 p.11
DEATHS
PEARCE.-On August 10, at Goldmans rd., Smith's Gully, Louisa, wife of the late William A. Pearce, loving mother of Arthur and Ethel (Mrs. Griffiths), grandmother of Wilma, aged 77 years.


1943-1954 Deakin

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

I think the trainee nurse with the names reversed must be someone else.

1943-1954 Deakin

Ethel Vivienne Griffiths 1943 Victoria Deakin

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

There is another PEARCE family in Victoria. Another William Arthur PEARCE married in 1895 to Fanny.

1909 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Preston
PEARCE Fanny, West street, Preston, home duties
PEARCE William Arthur, West street, Preston, letter carrier

I don't know if it's coincidence or not but Vivienne Ethel could be their daughter. Or perhaps the families are related in some way and the names come from a previous generation.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

Ok, thanks.

I can't find a tree with Ethel.

No sign of Ethel as GRIFFITHS in Springvale.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hello crankypants,

Ethel was a Mrs GRIFFITHS in her mother's notice so I'd say that's probably her in Deakin. What's the cut-off date for the death index? I wonder if the 1962 death is correct and if she is still a GRIFFITHS. :confused:

And, where did I get 1962 from. :D

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Ethel Vivienne Griffiths
Name: Ethel Vivienne Griffiths
Death Place: Heidelberg, Victoria
Age: 79
Registration Year: 1973
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 14448

cheers
crankypants
 
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