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Another WALKER family

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HO107 Piece 711 Book/Folio 1/43 Page 8
Civil Parish: Stepney
Registration District: Whitechapel
Sub-RD: Mile End New Town
Adress: Church Street
Josiah Wesley Walker 30 surgeon and apothecary
Ann Taylor Walker 31
Mary Elizabeth Wright Walker 3
All 3 not born in county as per image.

Births Dec 1843
WALKER Josiah Henry Stepney 2 469

Births Jun 1846
Walker Edgar Wright Stepney 2 564


WALKER J W arrived in SA 1848-11-10 aboard Navarino from London 07-15 [Source:6]

One tree has the rest of the family arriving on the 'John Munn' but this does not fit:

WALKER Edward, wife, 7 ch arrived in SA 1849-09-16 aboard John Munn from London 1849-05-21 via Plymouth [Source:6] ??

There is one daughter Ann born 1835 Middlesex not with family for some reason in 1841.

So we are looking for Ann T Walker and 2 daughters and 2 sons arriving after Josiah perhaps not to SA as the family ended up in NSW. Daughter Ann married in NSW in 1855.
 

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This is interesting...

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Mary Ann Clarissa Walker
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1833
Birth Place: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Father: Josiah Wesley Walker
Mother: Ann Walker
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title: Piece 4339: Hinde Street, Manchester Square (Wesleyan), 1813-1837
 

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This looks like Ann, but still can't see her in 1841 :rolleyes:

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Name: Ann Taylor
[Ann Walker]
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Josiah Wesley Walker
Mother: Ann Taylor Walker
Baptism Place: Harrow Road, London, England
Denomination: Irvingite
Piece Title: Piece 4337: Harrow Road, Paddington (Irvingite), 1835-1840
[Image says 1835, father = surgeon]

Geoff
 

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One tree has the rest of the family arriving on the 'John Munn' but this does not fit:

WALKER Edward, wife, 7 ch arrived in SA 1849-09-16 aboard John Munn from London 1849-05-21 via Plymouth [Source:6] ??

There is one daughter Ann born 1835 Middlesex not with family for some reason in 1841.

So we are looking for Ann T Walker and 2 daughters and 2 sons arriving after Josiah perhaps not to SA as the family ended up in NSW. Daughter Ann married in NSW in 1855.
Yeah i think another passenger list needs to be found :biggrin:

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Tuesday 11 December 1849

December 10. -John Munn, ship, 638 tons, Captain Pearson, from Port Phillip the 23rd ultimo, and Western Port the 1st instant.
Passengers -Mr. E. Garson, Mrs. Walker, four sons, and three daughters, Messrs. N.
 

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It's not the family on the John Munn.

At the moment I can't even name the four children.

Mary Ann Clarissa is not with family in 1841.

This is one in 1841 census:

Births Dec Qtr 1837
Walker Mary Elizabeth Wright Pembroke 26 448


This is one born after 1841 census:

Births Jun Qtr 1846
Walker Edgar Wright Stepney 2 564
 

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Going by a tree on family search :rolleyes: Will need checking of course :2fun::2fun:

Helen Jane Harrild /Walker/
birth: 10 June 1848
London, ENG

death: 12 April 1945
Subiaco, Western Australia


John Edward Pretty /Walker/
birth: 13 January 1851
Camden, NSW, Australia

death: 5 October 1935
Woodburn Park, Picton, NSW, Australia

So if that tree is correct arrival would have been between 1848 and before Jan 1851.
 

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Oh, and Ann Taylor born 1835 also not with parents in 1841.

Thanks gibbo.

I can't see a birth reg/baptism for John around 1851 in NSW BMD.

Death 23240/1935 WALKER JOHN E P - JOSHIA W - ANNE - PICTON

Not in Ryerson.
 
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The Picton Post (NSW : 1907 - 1954)
Wednesday 23 October 1935

MR. J. P. WALKER llic death occurred on 5th instant, at his- heme at 'Woodburn,' Lakesland, of Mr. John Efdward Pretty Walker, aged 84 years, a former resident of Goulburn and Cooma districts. Deceased was the fourth son of the late Dr. J. W. Walker, of Camden who came to Australia as . surgeon chaplain of the sailing vessel Navarino in 1848, and commenced practice shortly afterwards in Camden, .where the deceased -was born in 1851.'
 

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This is very curious:

PRETTY HELEN J H Female PERTH 782 1945

That is her mother's maiden name ???

Josiah Westly Walker & Ann Pretty
1832 Saint James Poole, Dorset, England ** 26 Nov


Summary of Record Information
First Name HELEN JANE HARRILD
Names are only recorded in capitals
Application Number
Last Name PRETTY KB00076969
See legend for application code details
Aged (Years) 97 Date of Death 12/04/1945
Suburb SUBIACO
Grave Location KARRAKATTA CEMETERY
Cemetery
ANGLICAN
Area or Denomination
HC
Section
0218
Gravesite
Grant Number K0007077 Grantee EDWARD PRECIVAL PRETTY
Grant Status EXPIRED
At today's date
Expiry 14/03/1964
Renewal Status RENEWAL COMPLETE
 
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How does Edward WALKER on John Munn fit in? Is he a brother of Josiah?

Even if he is a brother that is not Josiah's wife and 4 children.

When and where did Helen marry Edward?

Summary of Record Information
First Name EDWARD PERCIVAL
Names are only recorded in capitals
Application Number
Last Name PRETTY KC00005373
See legend for application code details
Aged (Years) 72 Date of Death 13/11/1950
Suburb CRAWLEY
Ashes Request
FAMILY GRAVE AT KARRAKATTA CEMETERY Completed yes
Grave Location KARRAKATTA CEMETERY
Cemetery
ANGLICAN
Area or Denomination
LAWN 1
Section
E007
Gravesite
Grant Number K0048789 Grantee ETHEL KATE PRETTY
Grant Status EXPIRED
At today's date
Expiry 02/05/2002
 

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This is getting weird. :biggrin:

Marriages Jun Qtr 1877
Pretty Edward Bedford 3b 514
Walker Helen Jane H Bedford 3b 514


I'm not convinced Helen is a daughter of Josiah and Ann T.


BBL. :)
 
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Hi guys, found your discussion when doing more research. Hope this helps. Helen Jane Harrild Walker is the daughter of Josiah Wesley Walker and Ann Taylor Pretty (cousins). Helen married Edward Pretty (again cousins) in England where they met. Helen travelled to England in her twenties (interesting story) where she met Edward. Both led very interesting lives. Helen is my great grandmother.
 

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Hello Maggie1306 and welcome to the Forum


Thanks for the details. It's been some time since I've looked at that part of my tree.

Regards,

Dave
 

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