Any possible new information about great grandfather

[Keith Ellis]

Hello

A while back I started to try and trace some family history and a few very kind people from this forum helped me and I managed to get a very good picture of some of my family tree...Thank you all again .

But my great grand father on my mums side we couldn't find much apart from possibly what i have below ,

So I'm checking back here to see if there is anything new that maybe able to be found/added to what was provided to me please

My grandfather was Donald Edward Robertson Born 31/01/27 Richmond Surrey (Mother was Ruck)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV3V-VJXX

And assuming this was my Great grandfather

Edward Francis Robertson - Born - 1892/93 - Death 22/12/26 Lancaster - Marriage 1920 to (Ruck)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26GM-2YJ
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVHH-NR6N

Thanks Keith

 

[emeltee]

Not 100% certain that the death in Lancaster is your man. Why would he be in Lancaster in December 1926 when his wife iis about to give birth in January 1927 in Surrey?

Cannot find a great deal on Edward, Charlotte is easier to find. She was born 24 March 1900 in Richmond Surrey to Henry Ruck and Mary Ann nee Williamson (Jun 1900 Richmond 2a 441 mmn Williamson) and she was baptised 5 December 1900 at St Luke's, Richmond. Address given as 79, Raleigh Road, Richmond
This is the family in 1901 Census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9XV-3WH

By 1939 she was a widow living at 79 Raleigh Road, Richmond. One other person with her but it is redacted so I'm guessing it is Donald.

With reference to Edward, it might be worth sending for the marriage certificate to find out his father's name. I can't find a birth for an Edward Francis but there is an Edward Robertson born Sep 1895 Kings Norton 6c 481 mmn Stamp who may be your man, particularly seeing as he married Charlotte in Kings Norton.

 

[emeltee]

Disregard the Kings Norton birth in the previous post as he was killed in WW1.

 

[Keith Ellis]

Hi

i was sent the wedding cert and Edwards father was Charles Robertson. (deceased) Building Contractor.
Marriage was October 25th 1920 county Stafford, says Edwards age is 28 Bachelor (Motor Engineer) and Charlotte 20 Spinster

 

[emeltee]

I'm not really finding anything at all re Edward. He is not coming up in 1921 Census and neither is Charlotte.

The only thing I have found is another Robertson/Ruck birth

Francis Henry Robertson Sep 1922 Leeds 9b 691 mmn Ruck

 

[Keith Ellis]

Yeah that's what happened last time....no one could find anything out about Edward....such a shame.

Yeah Frank was my grandad Donald's brother....he had a sister also

 

[Bootzy]

Parish Church Harbour in County Stafford
Oct 25 1920 – Edward Francis Robertson 28 motor engineer of Woodhouse lands Femal road – Charles Robertson dec a building contractor to Charlotte Emily Amelia Ruck age 20 spinster same address – Henry Ruck a commissionaire.

Findagrave – lovely photos of them and Marguerite.
Edward Francis Robertson b 1892 died 22 Dec 1926 Morecambe Lancs buried Lancaster Cemetery
note there has
married Charlotte Ruck on 1920 in Harborne Warwickshire, she died in 1974 in Richmond Surrey.
3 children Frank, Don and Marguerite – the grave is unmarked, there is no tombstone.

Marguerite Louise (Peggy) b 2 May 1925 Morecombe Lancs – died 23 March 2014 Pointe-Claire Montreal – her notes:

Served in the Women's Auxiliary Air Force during World War II, met her husband Dave Savage on a base in Devonshire and was married in Braunton. Went to Canada as a war bride along with thousands of other British women. She was a creative person who loved to draw and garden. She and Dave raised 4 children and travelled often back to England.
Mother Charlotte Emily Amelia Ruck (1900-1974); brothers Francis Henry Robertson (1922-1972), Donald Edward Robertson (1927-2008)

back to Edward – possible for him on Liverpool Crew List - away at sea a lot??

Edward Robertson age 15 (b 1892) born Castle Douglas Scotland, Port of entry Liverpool in 1907 on
ship “Saxonia” - Official no: 110648 ref 387CRE/754 – his NOK address is 83 Burley St, Liverpool

Edward’s on Liverpool Crew list for 1912 age 19, ship “Laconia” - 3rd yr nailer – no: 131412 ref 387CRE/501

 

[Keith Ellis]

Oh ok so do you think he was on a boat ... would that be the navy?

My nan said he died in a mental hospital

 

[emeltee]

Buying the death certificate will tell you where he was when he died.

 

[Keith Ellis]

on that findagrave site is says died 22 Dec 1926 Morecambe Lancs buried Lancaster Cemetery

 

[emeltee]

What I meant was it should give you the address at which he died.

 

[Keith Ellis]

I spoke to the person on findmygrave and they have death certificate...they said it says he was living in Morecambe when he died and that's where Peggy the daughter was born

 

[Keith Ellis]

These are from death certificate and marriage certificate

 

[Keith Ellis]

Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I can try please