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Archibald PEDEN and related from Argyll

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Hello,

Name: Archibald Peden
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
Age: 26
Native Residence Place: Kilblan, Argyleshire, Scotland
Father's Name: John Peden
Mother's Name: Catherine Mceachern
Spouse's Name: Barbara Peden
Spouse's Residence Place: Campbelltown, Argyleshire, Scotland
Spouse's Father's Name: Arch Fletcher
Spouse's Mother's Name: Barbara Mceachern
Ship Name: St George
Event Date: 15 Nov 1838
Volume: 11
GS Film number: 416875
Digital Folder Number: 4117087
Image Number: 04823

6686/1889 PEDEN BARBARA - ARCHBALD - BARBARA - GOULBURN

Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) -Saturday 13 April 1889
DIED, ON 25th March, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. B. Webber), Grafton-street, Goulburn, BARBARA, relict of the late ARCHIBALD PEDEN, of Camden, native of Campbelltown, Argyleshire, Scotland ; aged 83 years. Deeply regretted by all her family and respected by her friends. Her end was peace. Home papers please copy.

Goulburn Old General Cemetery
PEDEN Archibald P144 11 March 1855, 45y. d. Camden. Husband of Barbara Peden
PEDEN Barbara P144 25 March 1889, 83y. Wife of Archibald Peden

From shipping record:
Archibald - age 26 as of 13 Nov 1838 - father John a labourer
Barbara - age 27 as of 1838 - father Archibald a farmer

Children:
Barbara - 4y on 13 Jan 1838
Catherine - 3y on 1 Jan 1838
 
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Date on shipping record one day out:

Name: Catherine Peddan
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Jan 1836
Christening Place: , SOUTHEND, ARGYLL, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1835
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Archibald Peddan
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Barbara Fletcher
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11532-4
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1041076
Reference ID: 2:16BL8S9

Shipping record one day out again:

Name: Barbara Peddan
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jan 1834
Christening Place: , SOUTHEND, ARGYLL, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1834
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Archibald Peddan
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Barbara Fletcher
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11532-4
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1041076
Reference ID: 2:16BL616


1841 census no help with this family and FreeCEN has no PEDEN at all in Argyll in 1841.

Checking now for variations.
 
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Archibald Peddan & Barbara Fletcher
26 Mar 1831 Southend,​ Argyll


So we have 1812 by shipping record and 1810 by age at death for Archibald.

And we have Kilblan ? (is that Kilblane ?) or Campbeltown as pob.

I can't see a birth/baptism for Arch* PED*/PAD*/PAR*/PER* 1810-1815 in Argyll.

According to shipping record parents are John PEDEN (variations) and Catherine McEACHERN (variations).

I can't find that marriage.
 
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A tree has a death for John in 1859 in Ayr and a death for Catherine in 1828. I'm not sure I believe either of those dates. :D John should be in census then.

If the tree is correct he married twice and moved from Argyll to Ayr. Yet the tree has his birth as 1786 Kilkian ?, Argyll. The 1859 death and this census can't be the right John.

Piece: SCT1851/577 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Auchinleck Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Auchinleck
Folio: 0 Page: 12 Schedule: 42
Address: Hill
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PEDEN John Head M M 65 Chelsea Pensioner Ayrshire - Auchinleck
PEDEN Mary Wife M F 48 Chelsea Pensioner Wife Ayrshire - Ochiltree
Page: 0/13
PEDEN Mary Dau U F 20 Hand Sewer Ayrshire - Auchinleck
PEDEN Marion Dau U F 17 Hand Sewer Ayrshire - Auchinleck
PEDEN William Son U M 14 Scholar Ayrshire - Auchinleck
PEDEN Jane Dau - F 11 Scholar Ayrshire - Auchinleck
PEDEN Agness Dau - F 7 Scholar Ayrshire - Auchinleck


I'd say we are stuck on Archibald's side.
 
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Piece: 532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 1
Address: Kilblaan
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
McMURCHY Cathrine F 50 Pauper Unknown
McMURCHY John M 18 Ag Lab Unknown
McMURCHY Flora F 15 Unknown


Catherine born abt 1786 Argyll - parents Angus & Flora ??

I can't see any births/baptisms in Argyll with those parents. There are lots of McECAHRANs baptised in Southend with father = Angus but not a Catherine.

We know there is a daughter named Flora and a son named John.
 
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Catharine Mceachern
christening: 4 February 1781 , KILNINIAN AND KILMORE, ARGYLL
father: Roderick Mceachern
mother: Christian Mcleod

Cathrine Mceachern
christening: 24 May 1778 , KILNINIAN AND KILMORE, ARGYLL
father: Roderick Mceachern
mother: Ann Mcinnes


No children, or grandchildren or great-grandchildren named Roderick that I can see that are in my branch.
 

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Catherine Mceachran
christening: 30 March 1773 , SOUTHEND, ARGYLL
father: Robert Mceachran

Catharin Maceachran
christening: 8 June 1783 KILCALMONELL AND KILBERRY,ARGYLL
father: Lachlan Maceachran
Cathrine Mceachran
christening: 4 February 1787 KILCALMONELL AND KILBERRY,ARGYLL
father: Lachlan Mceachran


Cathrine Mceachrane
christening: 12 February 1771 , SOUTHEND, ARGYLL
residence: Southend, Argyllshire, Scotland
father: Dugald Mceachrane

Cathrine Mceachren
christening: 9 September 1795 KILLEAN AND KILCHENZIE,ARGYLL
father: James Mceachren
 

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Angus Mceachrane
marriage: 8 August 1793 Southend,Argyll
spouse: Mary Mceachrane

Angus Mceacharn
marriage: 14 December 1779 Kilbrandon And Kilchattan,Argyll
spouse: Mary Mcintyre


John Mceachern
marriage: 26 March 1779 Kilninian And Kilmore,Argyll
spouse: Flora Mceachern

Neil Mceachran
marriage: 6 June 1800 Southend,Argyll
spouse: Florey Mccallum
 
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Shall I start again and third time lucky? :biggrin:

I think there are not enough marriage and baptism records to solve this one.


Living next door:

Piece: SCT1841/532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 1
Address: Kilblaan
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCEACHREN Hugh M 60 Farmer Unknown
MCEACHREN Angus M 15 Ag Lab Unknown
MCEACHREN Colin M 15 Ag Lab Unknown
MCEACHREN Hugh M 14 Unknown
MCEACHREN Margret F 12 Unknown
MCEACHREN Flora F 10 Unknown
MCEACHREN Neil M 8 Unknown
 
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Archibald Mceachran
christening: 19 November 1772 Southend, Argyllshire
father: Angus Mceachran

Hugh Mceachrane
christening: 15 June 1775 Southend, Argyllshire
father: Angus Mceachrane

So that fits shipping record for father of Catherine. Also according to shipping record mother was Flora.

So a marriage for Angus to Flora/Florence MALOY/MILLOY around 1771.
 
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Interesting stuff - HERE


When the Breckenridges left East Kilblaan, my great grandfather Hugh McEachran took over the tenancy of the two farms and we have been here ever since. My great [great] grandfather Angus McEachran born 1744 was a son of Archibald McEachran and Effy McIlrevie. Angus married Florence Milloy, daughter of Hugh Milloy, tenant in Brunerican farm and Catherine McCualsky, and became tenant of West Kilblaan in 1798.

His family were:
Archibald b. 1772, in Navy m. Catherine Smitton
Hugh b. 1775 m. Flora McEachran
Margaret b. 1778 m. Archie McCorkindale
Euphan "Effy" b. 1780 m. Donald Comley
John b. ?? m. Mary McKerral
Catherine b. ?? m. John McMurchy
Florence b. 1788 m. John Loynachan
Mary b. 1790 died in early womanhood
Barbara b. 1792 m. Robert Cumming
 

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McMURCHY Catherine 70 'Lloyds' 1856 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4793]; Reel 2474, [4/4962]
Widows on embarkation
Housekeeper Argyll CS=Church of Scotland Read
Sponsor Payment receipt:
Mrs Cath. McMURCHY 70, Sponsored by William FLETCHER, Ship: 'Lloyd'
Arrived 4 Sep 1856 - Reel 2474
Catherine 70 Housekeeper Southend Argylshire Angus & Flora McMurchy Both dead C. S. Read 2 Sons & 1 Daughter Archibald Puden ?, John McMurchy & Flora Fletcher living at Goulburn & Camden Good None £15 R. R. by William Fletcher
 

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2 sons and a daughter. John and Flora are all sorted.

Error on shipping record with 'Angus & Flora McMurchy Both dead' as it should be McEachran/McEachern.

No death for John McMurchy so Catharine must have remarried and Archibald Peden is a son of second marriage ??
 

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If Archibald was born abt 1810 then he is a son of an earlier not later marriage.

27/07/1818 McMURCHY JOHN - CATHARINE McEACHRANE/FR386 519/ 10 375 Killean and Kilchenzie
 

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No birth/baptism found for Archibald Peden.

No marriage found for Cathrine McEachran to John Peden.

Archibald's mother is probably a sister of his wife's mother Barbara McEachran.
 

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26/10/1806 FLETCHART BARBARA ARCHIBALD FLETCHART/BARBARA MACEACHARN FR1249 (FR1249) F 507/ 40 294 Campbeltown

Perhaps that Barbara McEacharn is not Catherine's sister. Catherine had a sister Barbara but probably younger and probably this one.

CUMMING
ROBERT
BARBRA MACEACHRAN/FR153 (FR153)
06/12/1816
532/
10 147
Southend
 

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The Goulburn Herald Sat 6 Aug 1870 - MARRIED.
On the 20th July, by the Rev. A. Gordon, at the residence of the bride's father, HUGH PEDEN eldest son of the late Archibald Peden of Campelltown Argyleshire, Scotland to Mary eldest daughter of Donald Ross of Harapool Taralga

and there’s this one...which is a good possible for being yours...
Queanbeyan Age Thu 1872 - Marriage
On 15th instant at Booroomba the residence of the bride’s parents by the Rev C Jones, Mr Archibald Peden of Tarlo near Goulburn to Jane eldest daughter of Charles McKeahnie

Jane died Oct 1930 at the residence of her daughter Mrs WS Southwell, Dalley Street Junee.and Archibald July 1917 – his Orbit in Queanbeyan Age & Observer – Tue 10 July 1917
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/31676605?searchTerm=archibald peden &searchLimits=

Archibald Peden 10555/1917 – Archibald & Barbara – Queanbeyan – age 76

Archibald Peden 16541/1916 – Archibald & Jane – Queanbeyan – son of above age 41 – unmarried - Fri 10 Nov 1916

Archibald Peden 5508/1879 – Hugh & Mary - Goulburn

From a Tree..

Barbara Fletcher b Campbelltown Argylshire daughter of Archibald Fletcher & Barbara Mceacharan married 23 March 1831 Archibald Pedden - Ardersier Inverness, they had 3 children (one being Archie b 1837 and dies on passage out) & hubby died 11 March 1855 Camden NSW. (His parents John Peden & Catherine McEachern)

Barbara Peden age 27 arrived 15 Nov 1838 on ship “St George” with 2 daughter’s Barbara & Catherine with note saying baby Archibald about 9 months died at sea. On NSW Assisted Immigrant Passenger List.
Barbara & Archibald Peden had another son Archibald Peden b 1844 NSW – 1917 NSW
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Thanks Val.

Archibald Fletcher PEDEN b. 13 Nov 1810 Kilklan, Argyll ??

From shipping record:
Archibald - age 26 as of 13 Nov 1838 - father John a labourer

That would then be 1812.

Can't find on SP to confirm either or any other date.

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A tree has a death for John in 1859 in Ayr and a death for Catherine in 1828. I'm not sure I believe either of those dates. :D John should be in census then.

If the tree is correct he married twice and moved from Argyll to Ayr. Yet the tree has his birth as 1786 Kilkian ?, Argyll. The 1859 death and this census can't be the right John.
The death cert. for that John [1859 Auchinleck] has parents = Hugh [joiner] and Marion [possibly nee Smith]. Informant = son, William.

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