Arnold F NEALE

[DaveHam9]

Births Jun Qtr 1867
Neale Arnold Ferrers Camberwell 1d 546

1871
RG10 Piece 721 Folio 55 Page 66
Civil Parish: St Giles Camberwell
County: Surrey
Registration District: Camberwell
Sub-RD: Dulwich
ED: 2
Address:
Henry Watts Head Mar M 65 Principal Record Keeper in the Office of Vicar General of the Archbishop of Canterbury Pentonville Middlesex
Ester Watts Wife Mar F 63 Frome Somerset
Ester Sophia Neale dau F 36 Islington Middlesex
Samuel Neale Son-in-law M 41 Cashier Clerk in Eagle Assurance Society Cornhill London
Lilian M Neale Granddaughter F 12 Brixton Surrey
Arnold Ferrers Neale Grandson M 3 Dulwich Surrey


Looking for Arnold in 1881 thanks.

Unassisted to Victoria
NEALE ARNOLD Age 18 - MAY 1885 'KEPLER' B 450 001

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths for Samuel & Ester/Esther??

Can't see deaths in Australia for them.

Death of a daughter in Victoria in 1900.

NEALE Esther Father's name / Arnold Ferrars Mother's maiden name / Mary Josine (Mccarthy)Reg. no1351

 

[juliejtp]

Births Jun Qtr 1867
Neale Arnold Ferrers Camberwell 1d 546

1871
RG10 Piece 721 Folio 55 Page 66
Civil Parish: St Giles Camberwell
County: Surrey
Registration District: Camberwell
Sub-RD: Dulwich
ED: 2
Address:
Henry Watts Head Mar M 65 Principal Record Keeper in the Office of Vicar General of the Archbishop of Canterbury Pentonville Middlesex
Ester Watts Wife Mar F 63 Frome Somerset
Ester Sophia Neale dau F 36 Islington Middlesex

Samuel Neale Son-in-law M 41 Cashier Clerk in Eagle Assurance Society Cornhill London
Lilian M Neale Granddaughter F 12 Brixton Surrey
Arnold Ferrers Neale Grandson M 3 Dulwich Surrey


Looking for Arnold in 1881 thanks.

Unassisted to Victoria
NEALE ARNOLD Age 18 - MAY 1885 'KEPLER' B 450 001

Dave

Hi Dave,

No luck in finding Arnold in 1881. He's not with his family either.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

Another one hiding from me.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm still having trouble finding their deaths.

 

[Bootzy]

here's Arnold's
OBITUARY = Sunshine Advocate (Vic) Fri 11 July 1941
MR. ARNOLD FERRERS NEALE At the age of 74 years Mr. Arnold Ferrers Neale passed away on Tuesday. The deceased, who was born in London, leaves a wife and grown up family of three sons to mourn their loss. The deceased resided at 230 Ballarat Road, Maidstone. The funeral, which was private, took place on Thursday, the remains being cremated at the Fawkner Crematorium. Rev. S. P. H. Martin, of the Church of England, was the officiating clergyman at the crematorium, and Nelson Bros. were the funeral directors.
Name: Arnold Ferrers Neale
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 74
Death Place: Maidstone, Victoria
Father's name: Saml Neale
Mother's name: Unknown Esther
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6453


And his wife’s - The Age Mon 6 July 1942
NEALE. — On July 4. at Melbourne, Mary Josephine, relict ot the late Arnold Ferrers Neale, of Braybrook. and loving mother of John. Henry and Mafeking, aged 73 years. Requiescat in peace.

Name: Mary Josephine Neale
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 73
Death Place: Victoria
Father's name: Jno Mccarthy
Registration Year: 1942
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6549
Name: Mary Josephine Neale
Death Date: 6 Jul 1942
Cemetery: Brighton Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Melbourne, Melbourne City, Victoria, Australia
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/c


regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Mary is a sister of Margaret. Oh, I never realised previously:

Marriage 4731/1893 NEALE ARNOLD I - McCARTHY MARY J - MARRICKVILLE * 13 Jul 1893

GROOM: John HAMILTON
Status: Bachelor
Place of Birth: Gordons, Victoria
Occupation: Fireman
Age: 28
Usual Residence: Beeac, Victoria
Father: John HAMILTON
Occupation: Pensioner
Mother: Mary MORIARTY

BRIDE: Margaret McCARTHY
Status: Spinster
Place of Birth: Tipperary, Ireland
Occupation: Tailoress
Age: 30
Usual Residence: Gerald Street, Marrickville
Father: John McCARTHY
Occupation: (None Recorded)
Mother: Julia CRAWFORD

Date of Marriage: 13 Jul 1893
Place of Marriage: Dictrict Registrar's Office, Marrickville
Religion: Acts of Council 19 Victoria Nos 30 & 34
Witnesses: Arnold Ferres NEALE, Mary McCARTHY
Minister: John CORNISH, Registrar

Notes: Note in Margin Reads: Marriage Certificate Not Traced - W. K. 13-5-87

REF No.: 1893/4730

 

[DaveHam9]

1891
RG12 Piece 1908 Folio 16 Page 1
Civil Parish: Beckington
County: Somerset
Registration District: Frome
ED:
Address: Warminster Rd
Samuel Neale Head Mar 61 Retired Cashier London
Esther Sophia Neale Wife Mar 56 London
Lilian Mary Neale Dau S 32 London
Hilda Marguerite Neale Dau 16 London
Esther Watts Mother in Law 83 Somersetshire

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Marriages Sep Qtr 1879
BLACKALL Hannah Hackney 1b 815
CLINE Edmund Hackney 1b 815
CLIVE Edmund Hackney 1b 815
EWENS James Hackney 1b 815
Neale Mary Ann Hackney 1b 815

??
Esther Neale
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Hackney, London, Middlesex, England
County London, Middlesex
Civil Parish Hackney
Ecclesiastical Parish Hackney Wick St Mary Of Eton
Sub-District South-East Hackney
Registration District Hackney
Residence Note Prince Edward Road
Gender Female
Age 62
Occupation LIVING ON OWN MEANS
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1839
Birthplace Stoke Newington, London
Schedule Type 184
Page Number 34
Esther Neale Head F 62 Stoke Newington, London
Mary A Ewens Grand Daughter F 21 Hackney, London
Eliza Ewens Grand Daughter F 18 Hackney, London

Married or Widow?

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Esther Neale
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County London
Parish St John At Hackney
Sub-District Central Hackney
Registration District Hackney
Gender Female
Age 72
Birthplace Lond Stoke Newington
Record Type Household

??
Deaths Mar Qtr 1925
NEALE Esther A 88 Hackney 1b 617

The image has the initial as A not S.

 

[DaveHam9]

Ester/Esther Sophia WATTS

Esther Sophia Watts
Gender Female
Christening Date 22 Mar 1835
Christening Place LOWER STREET INDEPENDENT,ISLINGTON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 15 Feb 1835
Father's Name Henry Watts
Mother's Name Esther


Marriages Sep Qtr 1854
Neale Samuel Lambeth 1d 607
Watts Esther Sophie Lambeth 1d 607

 

[horse]

Married or Widow?

Widow, own means.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Then a death for Samuel?

Dave

 

[horse]

Then a death for Samuel?

Nothing really leaping out for Somerset, London, Middlesex or Surrey, even using a few variants

Can't see an obvious will, given wife of independent means in 1901

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I'm still working on 'M' - this is McCARTHY.

Marriage 4731/1893 NEALE ARNOLD I - McCARTHY MARY J - MARRICKVILLE * 13 Jul 1893

Dave

 

[horse]

You need more on Mary McCarthy?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

NEALE Mary Josephine
Father: Jno Mccarthy
Age: 73
Death Place: Victoria
Year: 1942
Reg Place: Victoria
Reg Number: 6549

The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) - Monday 6 July 1942 p.5
DEATHS
NEALE.-On July 4, at Melbourne, Mary Josephine, relict of the late Arnold Ferrers Neale, of Braybrook, and loving mother of John, Henry and Mafeking, aged 73 years. Requiescat in pace.

Mary Josephine Neale
Death Date: 6 Jul 1942 ?
Cemetery: Brighton Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Melbourne, Vic.
Has Bio?: N



Sister of Margaret. Trying to find birth/baptism and arrival for Mary and Margaret and any other siblings who may have arrived. They both married 13 Jul 1893 at Marrickville but I only have the copy of one.

GROOM: John HAMILTON
Status: Bachelor
Place of Birth: Gordons, Victoria
Occupation: Fireman
Age: 28
Usual Residence: Beeac, Victoria
Father: John HAMILTON
Occupation: Pensioner
Mother: Mary MORIARTY
BRIDE: Margaret McCARTHY
Status: Spinster
Place of Birth: Tipperary, Ireland
Occupation: Tailoress
Age: 30
Usual Residence: Gerald Street, Marrickville
Father: John McCARTHY
Occupation: (None Recorded)
Mother: Julia CRAWFORD
Date of Marriage: 13 Jul 1893
Place of Marriage: Dictrict Registrar's Office, Marrickville
Religion: Acts of Council 19 Victoria Nos 30 & 34
Witnesses: Arnold Ferres NEALE, Mary McCARTHY
Minister: John CORNISH, Registrar
Notes: Note in Margin Reads: Marriage Certificate Not Traced - W. K. 13-5-87
REF No.: 1893/4730

 

[DaveHam9]

Not 1939 Melbourne - North Melbourne

Death Reg# 7932/1941 HAMILTON Margaret 81 McCARTHY John UNK Unk MELB


Mother's name not on either Mary or Margaret's death reg.

Julia CRAWFORD could be correct.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Not this one then

Church Baptism Record
Name: Margaret MacCarthy
Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 19-Oct-1860
Address: Kilcommon Parish/District: CAHIR PARISH
Gender: Female County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: John MacCarthy Mother: Margaret Nugent
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Philip Nugent Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Narin
Notes:
PRIEST: M. MAXEY

 

[DaveHam9]

Margaret abt 1860
Mary Josephine abt 1869

Being RC both should/could be in Civil Reg.

Lots of Mary McCarthys in Tipperary.