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Arnold F NEALE

One tree suggests Mary J b. 1868 Melbourne, not validated.. Tree suggests Julia Crawford..

There is this..

Mary McCarthy
Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria
Year: 1868. No 4136
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Parents = John McCarthy & Julia Obrien

Geoff
 
Another public tree has this as their mother...

"Julia Crawford/Crappard
1835–1901
BIRTH 1835 • County Tipperary, Ireland.
DEATH 25 NOV 1901 • Prahran, Victoria"

Geoff
 
Julia McCarthy
Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 66
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria
Father's name: Crawf??ino
Mother's name: Mary Obrien
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 15201

This is the full record..

Geoff
 
If this is correct, it narrows the range a little more..

Births:
Cornelius McCarthy
Birth Place: Melbourne
Reg year: 1866. No 22987
Reg: Victoria, Australia
Parents = John McCarthy & Julia Crappard

Geoff
 
Thanks Geoff.

News to me. I've had the 'Julia Crawford' info for some months and have not checked to see if she died in Australia.

Obrien/Crappard/Crawford??


Deaths
MCCARTHY Cornelius - MCCARTHY John - Julia (Unknown) Reg. year1947 Reg. no514

MCCARTHY William - MCCARTHY John - Julia (Obrien) Reg. year1947 Reg. no11496

MCCARTHY William John James - MCCARTHY John - Julia (Obrien) Reg. year1960 Reg. no6727

2x William ??

Dave
 
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Something to ponder..

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Julia McCarthy
Arrival: 28 Jun 1865
Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure: Liverpool
Ship: Queen Of The North
[Image has with one fem infant]

Geoff
 
Also this to consider..

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
J McCarthy
Age: 30
Arrival: 13 Mar 1864
Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure: Liverpool
Ship: Naval Reserve
Nationality: Irish
[Occ = Lab]

Geoff
 
No Crappard births, deaths or marriages in Vic. index.

Julia McCarthy
Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 66
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria
Father's name: Crawf??ino
Mother's name: Mary Obrien
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 15201

Crawford Jno on Vic. index.

Dave
 
Thanks Geoff.

Errors in the reg for children with Julia's mother's name Obrien instead of Crawford or Crappard.

Found nothing yet in Trove in 1901 for Julia.

Dave
 
Does anyone have any connection with Mary O'Brien who was from Tipperary and who married John Crawford.
Their child Julia married John McCarthy in Ireland and they and a few children moved to Australia where they had more children.

Does anyone have any information about John McCarthy and Julia Crawford who were married about 1855 in Doon Parish Tipperary/Limerick Ireland and moved with several children to Australia in about 1865, where they had more children.?
Known children were James, Margaret, John, Thomas, Michael, Cornelius, Mary Josephine, William, Patrick and Julia.

Doon is either in Limerick or Tipperary or both. :biggrin:

Doon is a village in east County Limerick, Ireland, close to the border of County Tipperary. It is also a civil parish in the historic barony of Coonagh and is an ecclesiastical parish in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cashel and Emly.
 
Ok, thanks Geoff.


??
Michael Mccarthy
Event Type Birth
Event Date 1864
Event Place Tipperary, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year 1864
Registration District Tipperary
Volume Number 3
Page Number 686

Dave
 
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No obvious deaths in Vic. for James, John, Thomas, Michael or Patrick.

Several possible marriages for daughter Julia but no death that fits in Vic.

There is another John McCarthy in Victoria (d. 1934) married to a Julia. Daughters Gertrude and Irene.
 
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Any sign of a 2nd Arnold & Mary NEALE in Victoria 1900 - 1919?

1914 VIC Electoral Roll - Balaclava - Balaclava
NEALE Arnold Ferrars, 25 Vale st., manager
NEALE Mary Josephine, 25 Vale st., home duties

They married in Vic. in 1893.

Mary drops her middle name after 1914.

1931, 1934 & 1937 VIC Electoral Roll - Maribyrnong - Footscray North
NEALE Arnold Ferrers, Ballarat rd., Maidstone, ----
NEALE Mary, Ballarat rd., Maidstone, home duties

Thanks.

Dave
 
Still not sure I have the right deaths for John & Julia.

No luck with births or deaths for any of the other children.

If Julia arrived with only daughter Margaret in 1865 then lots of birth reg missing in Vic. ??

Can't find a burial for Julia. Not the 1934 one.

No Wills on PROV.
 
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Back to 'N' in my tree and still looking for Arnold Neale in 1881. Wonder how the name has been transcribed.

1851
HO107 Piece 1573 Folio 688 Page 1
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County: Surrey
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-RD: Kennington First
ED: 28
No of Schedule: 2
Address: 5 Montpelier Villa
[Transcribed as Nale]
Samuel Neale Head Widr. 58 Accountant Eagle Life Insurance Company Spital Square Middlesex
Joseph Neale Son Unm 22 Accot General Reversionary Compy Cornhill Middlesex
Samuel Neale Son Unm 21 Clerk Eagle Inse. Company Cornhill Middlesex
Mary J Neale Dau Unm 19 Old Kent Road Surrey
Maria Neale Dau 17 Old Kent Road Surrey
Elizabeth Newton Sister Widow 67 Whitechapel Middlesex
John Godwin Visitor Unm 24 Common Law Clerk To Solicitor Stansmore Middlesex
Emlah Holey Serv Unm 27 House Serv Shoreditch Middlesex
Charlotte M Morris Serv Unm 18 House Serv Clapham Surrey


Also the family in 1841 still not found.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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