Australian immigration records 1880s

[duckweed]

Anyone got access to Australian records? I've tried the few I have access to. I am looking for Peter Murray Gilchrist and wife Elizabeth. Peter was born in 1861 in Sheffield, was an apprenticed cutler, and married Elizabeth in 1881. I think he may have emigrated some time between 1881 and 1887. There is a Melbourne newspaper article about an explosion in a gunmakers shop in Bourke street in 1887 that may be him. I c

 

[duckweed]

I don't know for sure he emigrated to Australia but my query has been moved to Australian queries only. I just know he disappeared from Sheffield.

 

[gibbo]

Hi DW, i found a death index for a fella of the same name in VIC, parents are noted so might help confirm if your fella.

Event: deaths
Registration number 7365 / 1921
Family name: GILCHRIST
Given name(s) Peter Murray
Place of event: PRAHRAN, Australia
Personal detail
Mother's name Isabel
Mother's family name at birth MURRAY
Father's Name: MURRAY GILCHRIST Robert
Aged 60

 

[duckweed]

Hi DW, i found a death index for a fella of the same name in VIC, parents are noted so might help confirm if your fella.

Event: deaths
Registration number 7365 / 1921
Family name: GILCHRIST
Given name(s) Peter Murray
Place of event: PRAHRAN, Australia
Personal detail
Mother's name Isabel
Mother's family name at birth MURRAY
Father's Name: MURRAY GILCHRIST Robert
Aged 60

Thank You that is definitely him.

 

[gibbo]

Im just having a look around and see if i can find anything else on him.

 

[Bootzy]

Marriage 1881 Sheffield to Elizabeth Hirst

Vic Australia
1903 he’s at 395 Inkerman st St Kilda on his own – Com traveller
1909 he’s at Bellott street Brighton – traveller on his own
1914 he’s at 169 Bay st Brighton – traveller on his own

1919 – change. .marriage...
Peter still at 169 Bay street a traveller but with a Ricarda - homeduties is with him
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204409121?searchTerm=ricarda gilchrist

cannot find marriage in Vic.. married in Tas??

The Age – Thu 4 July 1940
MURRAY-GILCHRIST – On July 3 at her residence 77 Lynch street Hawthorn, Ricarda the beloved wife of the late Peter and loving mother of Victoria, aged 77 years.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204409132?searchTerm=ricarda gilchrist

Vic BDM – Ricarda Murray Gilchrist – unknown mum, - Richard Burt = father b Hobart died Hawthorn age 77 – reg 6033/1940

Louisa Josephine Ricardo Burt b 6 Dec 1862 Hobart – Richard Randolph Burt & Louisa Thompson – FHL 1368238

 

[DaveHam9]

I have no access to PROV this morning ?


Searching Trove for "Peter M Gilchrist" only gets one hit.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7875263?searchTerm="peter%20m%20gilchrist"

 

[gibbo]

I have no access to PROV this morning ?

It was been painful when i was using it this morning to.

 

[Bootzy]

Found birth cert for Ricarda to Richard & Louisa – father was shipwright – mum signed with her mark at Battery Point – Record ID Indexes 967242 – Resource RGD33/1/8 no 5723

 

[gibbo]

I think he may have emigrated some time between 1881 and 1887.

In the VIC archives online the assisted passenger lists finish at 1871 so well before your fella arrived here.

 

[juliejtp]

Might be worth checking out a PM Gilchrist, year 1882 on the Australian Inward and Outward Coastal Passenger Lists 1826-1972.

 

[Bootzy]

Ship “Trafalga” - NSW Unassisted Immigrant passenger list

P M Gilchrist – sheep farm from London arrive Sydney 19 Oct 1882

 

[gibbo]

Appears to be on his own, did Elizabeth die and not make it to Australia??
Married June quart 1881 and on his own Oct 1882

 

[duckweed]

Appears to be on his own, did Elizabeth die and not make it to Australia??
Married June quart 1881 and on his own Oct 1882

I haven't found anything after their marriage. Though its difficult with Murray Gilchrists often to find them as they were devout Wesleyan Methodists. Nothing has turned up in newspaper archives or Sheffield Indexers. If she did die soon after marriage most probable cause would be childbirth.

 

[gibbo]

I was hoping the passenger list would state if he was a widower etc but it doesn't.

https://www.marinersandships.com.au/1882/10/081tra.htm

Or sometimes the wife come at a later date.

 

[gibbo]

There was a notice of death for Peter in a UK newspaper. I'm unable to get the whole article up as i have no free searches left so not sure just how much information the article would contain.
The index

Published: Thursday 25 August 1921
Newspaper: Sheffield Daily Telegraph
County: Yorkshire, England

The death has taken place 11 ,Jer Mr. Peter Murray Gilchrist, the f: t „ ° J‘ late Mr. e ßobert' Murray Giich ri- ,0 11 , field, the novelist who was 5° Sheffield district. ...

 

[gibbo]

Also a notice to who appears to be Peter's brothers death

Published: Saturday 14 April 1917
Newspaper: Derbyshire Times
County: Derbyshire, England

Mrs Gilchrist (mother) was mvable attend. Mr Peter Murray Gilchrist broth*- rea;d*w in Melbourna. Auatraua. loe local Belgians also attended, and flowers, which plaoxl the grave. GiJennet ...

You may already have these articles if not below is the link

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

 

[duckweed]

There was a notice of death for Peter in a UK newspaper. I'm unable to get the whole article up as i have no free searches left so not sure just how much information the article would contain.
The index

Published: Thursday 25 August 1921
Newspaper: Sheffield Daily Telegraph
County: Yorkshire, England

The death has taken place 11 ,Jer Mr. Peter Murray Gilchrist, the f: t „ ° J‘ late Mr. e ßobert' Murray Giich ri- ,0 11 , field, the novelist who was 5° Sheffield district. ...

Yes I have now looked it up. Unfortunately doesn't say very much except he is Robert Murray Gilchrist's older brother.

 

[gibbo]

Not sure how much you want or need DW so just use what you can and ignore the rest.

Ricarda [Peter's 2nd wife?] was married to a William Anderson and had a daughter who died in 1883. I can't find a birth for daughter Victoria who was mentioned in Ricarda's death notice. R Burt is mentioned in the below death notice as per Ricarda's death index

The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954)
Mon 30 Jun 1884

Deaths.
ANDERSON.—On June 16, 1883, at her aunt's residence, Boundary-road, Hotham-hill, Seaby Ella Violet, infant daughter of William and Ricarda Anderson, and granddaughter to R. R. Burt, of Hobart, aged 5 months and 2 weeks.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9026234

 

[gibbo]

I'm beginning to think that Peter and Ricarda never married. Doesn't matter what names or wildcard i use nothing is coming up for marriages for them. Tried different states such as Tasmania, nsw and Vic and nothing.