Balderson/Bolderson

[emeltee]

My 3xgt grandmother was Elizabeth Bolderson was born 1808 Liverpool to a Richard Bolderson and his wife Elizabeth (Nee Mcguire). Richard and Elizabeth married in Liverpool in 1797.

I thought I had found Richard's baptism in 1772, son of Richard and Catherine. However it would appear that that Richard died in 1780.

Richard and Catherine had several children including a Thomas baptised 1774 and a Thomas baptised 1784. This particular Thomas died 1785 but I cannot find a death for the first Thomas.

Going back to Richard and Elizabeth I have found a death for a Richard in Liverpool in 1832. Age at death gives a birth year of 1774. As I cannot find a death or a marriage for the Thomas born 1774 I have come up with a wild theory that when young Richard did in 1780 young Thomas was renamed Richard. I said it was a wild theory.

Do you think this could be the case or am I away with the fairies again. Or can anyone find a birth for Richard between 1770 and 1780. I'm fairly certain that my Boldersons, Richard or otherwise had nothing to do with the Balderson family of Wgan or with any families of the same name from Lincolnshire as I have found appropriate marriages/deaths for them.

There are various spellings of the name Balderson/Bolderson/ Balderston etc etc.

Thanks,

Emeltee

 

[oznannie]

Hi emeltee, not of any help but I love your comment "away with the fairies"..I often feel like that with this genie lark, you gave me a good chuckle!! Oz

 

[Ladybird1300]

Just looking at Richard and Elizabeth's marriage, which says Richard was born in 1776 and Elizabeth was a widow, It also says they were both 21.

Found a baptism on Free reg for a Richard Bolderstone 1778 to a John and Mary at St Mary the Priory Lancaster.

Amanda

 

[emeltee]

Thanks Amanda, I'll have a look at that baptism.. The main reason I thought he might be the son of Richard and Catherine is that they were both blacksmiths.

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

Regarding Richard's marriage to Elizabeth in 1797 the transcription gives their ages as both being 21 but if you look at the original of the Marriage Bond the wording is actually "aged 21 years and upwards" so they both could have been older than 21 when they married.

Emeltee

 

[Ladybird1300]

I was quoting from the transcription....that was a standard print on the original marriage. I was thinking that Elizabeth must have been married very young to be a widow.
The transcription on FMP had Richard born in 1776, may be they took it they were both 21??

Btw haven't found the baptism you have anywhere, nothing much for a Richard Bolderson/Bolderstone except the one you mentioned in Wigan.

Amanda

 

[emeltee]

The 1772 baptism in Liverpool is on lancs opc

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

Forgot to add that according to the age given (not always accurate, I know) Elizabeth was 73 when she died in 1841 which gives her a birth year of 1768.

Emeltee

 

[Ladybird1300]

Considering Ancestry is supposed to have the Lancashire records, they don't have much for Bolderson and certainly not Richard

Amanda

 

[emeltee]

I've also found the 1772 baptism on fmp and fs. What I haven't been able to find is a death for Richard senior. His wife Catherine died 1820. I haven't looked on Anc. as Ii don't subscribe but I have found most of my Lancashire lot on there. You may need to try a variety of spellings of the name.

Emeltee

 

[Ladybird1300]

I used balderson and found the same records as you for birth in 1772 and a death in 1832, the other death was in 1818 Wigan. Can't see anything different to what you already have.

Amanda

 

[emeltee]

That's a shame. I was hoping fresh eyes might spot something I may have missed.

Emeltee