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BALE family in Middlesex in 1841

DaveHam9

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I'd like a look up please for the BALE family in Middlesex in 1841.

John b. abt 1796 Norfolk
Hannah b. abt 1814 Middlesex
Hannah b. abt 1834
John Lloyd b. Jan 1837
Mary b. Dec 1837


John married Hannah on 14 Jul 1833 at St James Westminster.

The family went to Australia on 'Chaseley' 1 May 1849 to Brisbane.

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Hello Joyce,

Thanks for looking. I was assuming they were in Middlesex because of the births of the children.

Births Dec 1837
Bale Mary Chelsea 3 187

The next one:

Births Sep 1841
Bale Matilda Kensington 3 267

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Hello Dave ,you may already have this ..lets know if you need death and marrige chers Lynne
Reg # Family name Given name Fathers given names Mothers names

1883/B30653 Bale Herbert John...father.. Benjamin Robert..mother.. Rebecca Low
1911/B25087 Bale Patrick John... f...John Edward .. m...Kathleen Mary Pluck
1898/C7039 Bale Theo John ..f .Arthur William..... m Mary Ethel Pugh
 

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Hello Lynne,

Thanks for trying to help. I don't think I'm missing any of the BALE family events from Queensland. They are easy to sort out because the mother's name is usually included with the births and deaths in that state.

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Hello Lynne,

I will go through all my Queensland connections to see if I have anything for a GR account.

Thanks.

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Hello Lynne,

I have gone through the BALE in my tree and have found a few queries. The answers to some are not in the Qld. on-line BMD. The births/baptisms may be on CD or fiche. The deaths may not be found because they may not have been registered.

I have found the family on the shipping list however there are errors. It shows two children named John and the eldest Hannah is missing:

Arrived on 'Chaseley' 1 May 1849 IMM/112 4 Z1957 M1696 to Brisbane
BALE
John 40
Hannah 32
John 14
John 13
Mary 11
Matilda 7
Ruth 4
Benjamin 1
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I'll go through the 11 children:

Hannah b. abt 1834 but can't be found in IGI d. 17 Jun 1926 Slaughter Hannah F 18 / 06 / 1926 93 years

Apart from her birth I have no queries for Hannah.
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John lloyd b. 18 Jan 1837 can't be found in IGI but date comes from his bio. d. 22 Nov 1885 Oxley.

I have no queries for John.
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Mary - I have no queries.
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Robert - I have no queries.
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Matilda - I have no queries.
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Ruth b. 1845 Middlesex d. ?
married # 1863/B499 Hill Henry Bale Ruth
Henry HILL b. ? d. ?
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Benjamin b. 1847 Middlesex d. ?
Listed on passenger list and not listed as 'dv' so where did he die?
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Benjamin Robert b. Jan 1850 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 30 May 1915

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Isaac b. 1852 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 1861 Brisbane
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Rebecca b. 1854 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 25 Jun 1890 Brisbane

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Rachel Elizabeth b. 5 Oct 1856 Brisbane d. after 1895 ?
married Henry James HILL b. ? d. 1895
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Do we have one or two Henry HILLs, and if two are they related?

Dave
 

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:) Hello Dave.i did a bit of looking around what i could..i don'tknow if its going to be helpful or no ..maybe you have it ..but will post in case ...
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if you don't need just disregard ..but here it is..have added bits and peices to your post..not very good at computer so hope you can make sense of it .i hve yet to look at henry hill but he too could be on the brisbane cemetary list..soe times they have buried two or more in one grave..you may have to click on perso to see how many others in same grave..
.cheers Lynne
Found a Hannah Bale buried Bald Hills cemt.QLD.1896...
go to this site and check out the bales buried there

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:STANDARD::pc=PC_899
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HERE IS SITE AGAIN
Found a Hannah Bale buried Bald Hills cemt..1896...
go to this site and check out the bales buried there

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:STANDARD::pc=PC_899

Arrived on 'Chaseley' 1 May 1849 IMM/112 4 Z1957 M1696 to Brisbane
BALE
John 40
Hannah 32
John 14
John 13
Mary 11
Matilda 7
Ruth 4
Benjamin 1
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I'll go through the 11 children:

Hannah b. abt 1834 but can't be found in IGI d. 17 Jun 1926
Slaughter Hannah F 18 / 06 / 1926 93 years
below not sure if this one helps its a death entry qld...
86/C3547 Bale John Alfred...... John Lloyd Bale....... Eliza Slaughter


Apart from her birth I have no queries for Hannah.
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John lloyd b. 18 Jan 1837 can't be found in IGI but date comes from his bio. d. 22 Nov 1885 Oxley.

death entry..QLD....1885/C4161 Bale John Lloyd John Bale .......Hannah Lloyd

I have no queries for John.
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Mary - I have no queries.
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Robert - I have no queries.
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Matilda - I have no queries.
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Ruth b. 1845 Middlesex d. ?
married # 1863/B499 Hill Henry Bale Ruth
Henry HILL b. ? d. ?
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Benjamin b. 1847 Middlesex d. ?
There is this
death QLD MAY HELP1895/C378 Bale Benjamin James.... Benjamin Bale ......Georgina McKay

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Listed on passenger list and not listed as 'dv' so where did he die?
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Benjamin Robert b. Jan 1850 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 30 May 1915
DEATH BELOW...QLD...
DIED brisbane at Toowong cemt..
1915/B21274 Bale Benjamin Robert .....John Bale(F)..... Hannah Lloyd(M)


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Isaac b. 1852 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 1861 Brisbane
-death reg no..1861/B662 Bale Isaac John Bale Hannah Lloyd

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Rebecca b. 1854 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 25 Jun 1890 Brisbane

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Rachel Elizabeth b. 5 Oct 1856 Brisbane d. after 1895 ?
married Henry James HILL b. ? d. 1895
marriage reg.noQLD
1880/C655 Bale Rachel Elizabeth ........Hill Henry James

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Do we have one or two Henry HILLs, and if two are they related?
BIRTHS QLD FATHER.............. MOTHER

1886/C3547 Bale John Alfred ...John Lloyd Bale.......... Eliza Slaughter
1885/C4161 Bale John Lloyd.... .. John Bale....................... Hannah Lloyd

1861/B662 Bale Isaac................... John Bale.............. .. Hannah Lloyd

1861/B662 Bale Isaac John Bale .......Hannah Lloyd

1867/B4024 Bale John .................John Bale .. Mary - ** born

64YEARS.....
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QLD BIRTHS....
1915/B21274 Bale Benjamin Robert.. John Bale................ Hannah Lloyd

1896/C3358 Bale Hannah.......... George Lloyd...................... Hannah Simmons

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QLD MARRIAGES.
REG NO'S
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1854/BMA777 Slaughter John .... Bale Hannah
1859/B32 Bale John Lloyd........... Slaughter Eliza

1861/B107 Bale Matilda ...............Slaughter Thomas

1863/B499 Hill Henry................. Bale Ruth
1877/B5680 Bale Benjamin Robert.... Low Rebecca
1878/C275 Bale Rebecca................ Kingsford Robert West

1895/C118 Mackay Georgeina............ Bale Benjamin


Arrived on 'Chaseley' 1 May 1849 IMM/112 4 Z1957 M1696 to Brisbane
BALE
John 40
Hannah 32
John 14
John 13
Mary 11
Matilda 7
Ruth 4
Benjamin 1
---------------------
I'll go through the 11 children:

Hannah b. abt 1834 but can't be found in IGI d. 17 Jun 1926
Slaughter Hannah F 18 / 06 / 1926 93 years
below not sure if this one helps its a death entry qld...
86/C3547 Bale John Alfred...... John Lloyd Bale....... Eliza Slaughter


Apart from her birth I have no queries for Hannah.
----------....................................................................................
John lloyd b. 18 Jan 1837 can't be found in IGI but date comes from his bio. d. 22 Nov 1885 Oxley.

death entry..QLD....1885/C4161 Bale John Lloyd John Bale .......Hannah Lloyd

I have no queries for John.
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Mary - I have no queries.
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Robert - I have no queries.
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Matilda - I have no queries.
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Ruth b. 1845 Middlesex d. ?
married # 1863/B499 Hill Henry Bale Ruth
Henry HILL b. ? d. ?
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Benjamin b. 1847 Middlesex d. ?
There is this
death QLD MAY HELP1895/C378 Bale Benjamin James.... Benjamin Bale ......Georgina McKay

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Listed on passenger list and not listed as 'dv' so where did he die?
-----------.......................................................................................................
Benjamin Robert b. Jan 1850 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 30 May 1915
DEATH BELOW...QLD...
DIED brisbane at Toowong cemt..
1915/B21274 Bale Benjamin Robert .....John Bale(F)..... Hannah Lloyd(M)


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Isaac b. 1852 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 1861 Brisbane
-death reg no..1861/B662 Bale Isaac John Bale Hannah Lloyd

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Rebecca b. 1854 ? Qld. Reg# ? d. 25 Jun 1890 Brisbane

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Rachel Elizabeth b. 5 Oct 1856 Brisbane d. after 1895 ?
married Henry James HILL b. ? d. 1895
marriage reg.noQLD
1880/C655 Bale Rachel Elizabeth ........Hill Henry James

--------------

Do we have one or two Henry HILLs, and if two are they related?
BIRTHS QLD FATHER.............. MOTHER

1886/C3547 Bale John Alfred ...John Lloyd Bale.......... Eliza Slaughter
1885/C4161 Bale John Lloyd.... .. John Bale....................... Hannah Lloyd

1861/B662 Bale Isaac................... John Bale.............. .. Hannah Lloyd

1861/B662 Bale Isaac John Bale .......Hannah Lloyd

1867/B4024 Bale John .................John Bale .. Mary - ** born

64YEARS.....
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QLD BIRTHS....
1915/B21274 Bale Benjamin Robert.. John Bale................ Hannah Lloyd

1896/C3358 Bale Hannah.......... George Lloyd...................... Hannah Simmons

________________________________________________
QLD MARRIAGES.
REG NO'S
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1854/BMA777 Slaughter John .... Bale Hannah
1859/B32 Bale John Lloyd........... Slaughter Eliza

1861/B107 Bale Matilda ...............Slaughter Thomas

1863/B499 Hill Henry................. Bale Ruth
1877/B5680 Bale Benjamin Robert.... Low Rebecca
1878/C275 Bale Rebecca................ Kingsford Robert West

1895/C118 Mackay Georgeina............ Bale Benjamin
 

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Hello Lynne,

Thank you. I had not looked for a marriage for Benjamin. Because they named their next child Benjamin Robert I assumed the first Benjamin must have died before the birth of the second. Hmmm...

Regards,

Dave
 
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