BALL family in Lancs.

[DaveHam9]

1891
Civil Parish: Golborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Poulton
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Leigh
Sub-RD: Lowton
Address: Edge Green Lane, Golborne
BALL, John Head Mar M 47 Coal Miner Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Mary A Wife Mar F 47 Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Ezra son M 14 Labourer On Pit Brow Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Jethro son M 13 Labourer On Pit Brow Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Hanorah son F 9 Scholar Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Miriam dau F 7 Scholar Golbrone Lancashire
BALL, Richard son M 5 Scholar Golbrone Lancashire

I'd like the census ref thanks.

Dave

 

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1891

Ref: ED: 1; RG12; Piece: 3083; Folio: 14; Page: 34

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.


Three of the daughters on a side branch of BALL family probably married but the name is too common to be sure we are tracing the right one. Example:

Ann BALL Bap 17 Jun 1855 Lowton, Lancashire

Births Jun 1855
Ball Ann Leigh 8c 146


Marriages Jun 1875
BALL Ann Bolton 8c 505
Calderbank Ann Bolton 8c 505
PARKINSON Thomas Bolton 8c 505
Syron John Bolton 8c 505

Marriages Sep 1875
BALL Ann Leigh 8c 278
Glover George Henry Leigh 8c 278
Hanesworth Kate Leigh 8c 278
RIGBY Thomas Leigh 8c 278

Dave

 

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Would anything else from any of those in 1891 help?

 

[DaveHam9]

That one no, but here is Ann with relatives in 1861 and with her married sister Amelia in 1871:

1861
RG9 Piece 2799 Folio 15 Page 23
Registration District: Leigh
County: Lancashire
Address: Edge Green Court, Golborne
Hiram Ball (Farmer of 20 acres) 36
Alice Ball 29
William Thos Ball 9 MO
Israel Ball 32
Ann Ball niece 6
Ellen Henton 13

1871
RG10 Piece 3939 Folio 123 Page 27
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
Town: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Bolton
Sub-RD: Bolton Eastern
Address: Parrot Street, Great Bolton, Bolton
GREGORY, Adam Head M 31 Cotton Weaver Lowton Common, Lancashire
GREGORY, Amelia Wife F 28 Golborne, Lancashire
GREGORY, John T Son M 3 Bolton, Lancashire
NELSON, Betsy Lodger F 19 Heaton, Lancashire
HELM, Alice Lodger F 27 Bolton, Lancashire
BALL, Ann Lodger F 16 Golborne, Lancashire

 

[DaveHam9]

Trying to eliminate some by finding if they were born in RD Leigh or not.

No birth reg for an Ann CALDERBANK in Leigh. Wigan, Chorley, Preston, Bolton

I'm hoping only one Ann will show born Golborne or Lowton.

I think Ann BALL married John Syron and showed as born Bolton.

That seems to point to Glover or Rigby. I've not matched those 4 yet.

 

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Amelia Ball
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1842
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1843
Parish: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Simeon Ball
Mother: Anne Ball
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drl/2/544

Still looking for Ann...

So they are John's sisters.

 

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The closest match for Ann in the 1861 census is b. 1855 Leigh.. It covers Golborne and Lowton.

 

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Ann Ball
Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1855
Baptism Place: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Simeon Ball
Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number: 1469067 IT 2

 

[DaveHam9]

The closest match for Ann in the 1861 census is b. 1855 Leigh.. It covers Golborne and Lowton.

Thanks Geoff.

So Ann the niece 6 shows born Leigh?


I've looked at Glover and Rigby and can't find a match with Ann born abt 1855.

Looks as though it's not any of those 1875 marriages.

 

[horse]

See post #9

 

[DaveHam9]

Amelia Ball
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1842
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1843
Parish: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Simeon Ball
Mother: Anne Ball
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drl/2/544

Still looking for Ann...

So they are John's sisters.

Thanks Geoff.

I can't see a birth reg for Amelia.

Yes, brother John the coal miner.

Amelia was easy:

Marriage: 30 Sep 1860 St Luke, Lowton, Lancashire, England
Adam Gregory - (X), 20, Weaver, Bachelor, Lowton
Amelia Ball - (X), 17, Spinster, Golborne
Groom's Father: John Gregory, Silk Weaver
Bride's Father: Simeon Ball, Miner
Witness: Thomas Unsworth; Sarah Hodson
Married by Certificate by: Thos. Forster, Rector

 

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Thanks Geoff.

I can't see a birth reg for Amelia.

Yes, brother John the coal miner.

Births Q4 1842
Ball Amelia
Warrington
20 775

Covered Golborne then..

 

[DaveHam9]

Ann Ball
Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1855
Baptism Place: Lowton, Lancashire, England
Father: Simeon Ball
Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number: 1469067 IT 2

Thanks Geoff.

Looks as though it's not one of those 1875 marriages.

 

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Just found a tree that has Ann m. William Finney, 1874 Wigan, not validated

 

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Can't see a William Finney though..

Marriages Q4 1874
Abbott Charles
Ball Ann
Bromley Selina
TAYLOR Job

Wigan
8c 47

 

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Oh!

Marriages Q2 1874
BALL Ann
Fairhurst Elizabeth
Finney William
Riddlesworth Allen

Wigan
8c 78

 

[DaveHam9]

It would seem William should not be here:

Marriages Jun 1874
BARKER Robert Wigan 8c 76
FINNEY William Wigan 8c 76
Hampson Helena Wigan 8c 76
Hart Ellen Wigan 8c 76
MILLIGEN David Wigan 8c 76


But ?

Name: Ann Finney
Age (Original): 25
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1856
Birthplace: Standish, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Address: Martland Mill Lane
Event Place: Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3780 / 110
Page Number: 13
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Finney Head M 29 Standish, Lancashire, England
Ann Finney Wife F 25 Standish, Lancashire, England
Robert Finney Son M 6 Standish, Lancashire, England
Ellen Finney Daughter F 4 Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Alice Finney Daughter F 2 Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Edward Finney Son M 0 Pemberton, Lancashire, England

 

[horse]

Yep, that's why I double checked, the tree suggested they have a dau. Amelia

Edit b. 1896 Standish

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Give up on Ann, as I expected.

Moving on.