BALL family

[DaveHam9]

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 522/13 Folio 24 Page 6
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Wigan
Sub-RD: Hindley
ED: 13
Address: Bamfurlong Colliery
Simeon Ball 20 Collier Y
Ann 20 Y
Jane 2 Y
Margt. 6 weeks Y

1851
HO107 Piece 2204 Folio 75 Page 21
Civil Parish: Golborne
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Leigh
Sub-RD: Lowton
ED: 2c
No of Schedule: 70
Address: Edge Green
Simeon Ball Head Mar 31 Miner Coal Golborne Lancashire
Nancy Ball Wife Mar 29 Lowton Lancashire
Jane Ball dau 11 Employed in Factory Lowton Lancashire
Amelia Ball dau 8 Scholar Golborne Lancashire
John Ball son 6 Golborne Lancashire
Sarah Ball dau 5 Golborne Lancashire
Mary Ball dau 1 Golborne Lancashire


I can't see a birth reg for Jane.

Not
Deaths Mar 1858 BALL Jane [87] Leigh 8c 114

Births Jun 1841 BALL Margaret - Wigan 21 800 ms HODSON

No Margaret with family in 1851.

Not
Deaths Mar 1844 BALL Margaret [1] Wigan 21 583

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Amelia is ok. I have her marriage and death.

Next one is probably this reg:

BALL, JOHN - HADSON
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 20 Page 858

After that John is ok.

Births Mar 1846 BALL Sarah Leigh 21 618 ms HODSON

Sarah is ok. I have her marriage and death.

A few died young.

Next
Births Dec 1853 BALL Elizabeth Leigh 8c 127 ms HODSON

I have no marriage and no death for Elizabeth.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Jane Hodson Sep 1839 Leigh Union 21 489

Baptism
11 Aug 1839 St Luke, Lowton
Jane child of Ann Hodson, Silk Weaver Lowton.

Marriage
Simeon Ball/Ann Hodson
27 July 1840 St Oswald Winwick.
His father William Ball, Collier
Her father John Hodson, Weaver.

The baptism and marriage are from lancs opc site.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

I have the transcription of the marriage from Lancs OPC.

Staring me in the face and I missed it.

27 Jul 1840 & Jane abt 1839.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Marriages Dec 1856
Battersby James Leigh 8c 219 &
Bevington Jane Leigh 8c 219 &

Higson George Leigh 8c 219
Hodson Jane Leigh 8c 219

??
HIGSON, HENRY - HODSON
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 173
HIGSON, RICHARD - HODSON
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 191

Not that marriage going by details in 1861 census.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Marriages Sep 1871
BALL Elizabeth Leigh 8c 265
RATCLIFFE John Leigh 8c 265 &
Slater Eliza Leigh 8c 265 &
Ward Joseph Leigh 8c 265

Does not seem to be the right Elizabeth Ball.

WARD, MARGARET - BALL
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 225

WARD, JAMES - BALL
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 221

WARD, ELIZABETH ANN - BALL
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 241

 

[DaveHam9]

Witness is probably sister Ann born 1855.

Marriage: 29 Jun 1872 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Pilling - 25 years, Spinner, Bachelor, 14 Weston St.
Sarah Ball - (X), 26 years, Spinster, 10 Parrot St.
Groom's Father: William Pilling, Spinner
Bride's Father: Simeon Ball, Collier
Witness: Charles Pilling; Ann Ball, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Stott Lecturer & Curate
Register: Marriages 1869 - 1873, Page 197, Entry 393
Source: Film of the register at Manchester Library

Ann with her married sister

1871
RG10 Piece 3939 Folio 123 Page 27
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Bolton
Sub-RD: Bolton Eastern
ED:
Address: Parrot St
GREGORY Adam Head Mar 31 Cotton Weaver Lowton Common Lancashire
GREGORY Amelia Wife Mar 28 Golborne Lancashire
GREGORY John T Son 3 Bolton Lancashire
NELSON Betsy Lodger 19 Heaton Lancashire
HELM Alice Lodger 27 Bolton Lancashire
BALL Ann Lodger 16 Twiss Winder ? Golborne Lancashire

No marriage for Ann on Lancs OPC.

 

[DaveHam9]

Looks like I'm stuck looking for marriages/deaths for Jane, Margaret, Ann and Elizabeth.

5 marriages on Lancs OPC for siblings.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Marriages Dec 1864
Ball Margaret Warrington 8c 136
Clarke Thomas Warrington 8c 136 &
Lowe Esther Warrington 8c 136 & Esther's mother in 1871 census
Thompson Aaron Warrington 8c 136

??
THOMPSON, JANE - BALL
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 156

Can't see Aaron with Margaret in 1871.

Aaron Thompson Head M 63 Culshaw, Lancashire
Margaret Thompson Wife F 41 Newton-Le-Willows,
...
Jane Thompson Daughter F 3 Newton

Ok, found them and not the right Margaret.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm moving on to Barnes family in Bedford.

 

[horse]

Marriages Q2 1888
BALL Elizabeth
MADELEY George
WHITTALL William
Liverpool
8b 39
**

Liverpool, C of E Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Elizabeth Ball
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1856
Marriage Date: 1 Apr 1888
Father: Simeon Ball [Collier]
Spouse: George Madeley [Carter]

Spouse father = George Madeley [Builder]
Witnesses: John Kennedy & Ellen Dowling

Geoff

 

[horse]

Deaths Q4 1842
Ball Margaret
Warrington
20 615
**

Lancashire, C of E Deaths and Burials, 1813-1986
Margaret Ball
Birth Year: abt 1841
Death Age: 1
Burial Date: 9 Oct 1842
Burial Parish: Winwick, Lancashire, England
Father: Simeon Ball
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Reference Number: Drl/2/544

Winwick is in Warrington RD:

Geoff

 

[horse]

I can't see a birth reg for Jane.

There are a few public trees, look quite well documented. Some don't have Jane even though she is clearly in the 1851 census..

Geoff

 

[horse]

A bit out from the 1851..

Births Q1 1842
Ball Jane
Liverpool
20 483
**

GRO:
BALL, JANE
mmn = HODSON
1842 Q1 in LIVERPOOL
Vol 20 Page 483

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I didn't look as far as Liverpool for possible marriages.

Jane would be the HODSON reg Emeltee found. Born before 1840 marriage.

That's three out of five fixed this time around.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1842 Reg? 2x BALL - HODSON marriages??

Marriages Jun 1839
BALL Robert Liverpool 20 303
BOND Edward Liverpool 20 303
BROWNE Sarah Liverpool 20 303
CLARKE Catherine Liverpool 20 303
HODSON Jane Elizabeth Liverpool 20 303
LANDY John Liverpool 20 303
LYNCH John Liverpool 20 303
SMITH Mary Liverpool 20 303

 

[horse]

Jane would be the HODSON reg Emeltee found. Born before 1840 marriage.

Yeah the 1841 census is a bit of a giveaway :2fun:

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I've started looking for Elizabeth in 1871 and 1881, and married in 1891 and not having much luck so far.

Dave

 

[horse]

This looks like them in 1891 slight error in surname..

County: Lancashire
RD: Liverpool
Sub RD: Dale Street
ED: 16; Piece: 2908; Folio: 62; Page: 4

George Mageley 36 [b. Hougham, Staffordshire. Carter]
Elizabeth Mageley 36 wife [b. Golborne]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Mageley does not find them in FS. But then again 1891 does not allow birth year range input.

Dave