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Mary Louisa Beaumont
christening: 27 Dec 1830 St Michaels Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England
Charles Beaumont & Louisa Wilson (Selby)


Name: Willoughby Thomas BRERETON
Event type: Biography
Start date: 15 Jun
Start year: 1838
End date: 10 Apr
End year: 1915
Biographical notes:
Madras Army, b 15 Jun & bap 1 Aug 1838, Steeple Morden, Cambs, son of Rev Thomas & Louisa Milbourn -Cadet 1857; d 10 Apr 1915 & bur Cossor Cem, Bangalore; m Mary Louisa Beaumont 15 Sep 1864 (b 27 Nov 1836, d 28 May 1893); Thomas Willoughby Selby b 1 Jul 1865, d 19 May 1867; Henry Willoughby b 14 Apr 1867; Mary Louisa Annie b 2 Nov 1868, m 29 Oct 1904; Ada Margaret b 21 Sep 1871, d; 24 Mar 1872; Charles William Francis b 1 Aug 1874, d 8 May 1875
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1851
HO107 Piece 1646 Folio 482 Page 33
Civil Parish: Brighthelmstone
County: Sussex
Registration District: Brighton
Sub-RD: The Palace
ED: 1r
No of Schedule: 105
Addrerss: 31 Montpelier Street
Charles Beaumont Head Mar 45 [Occ: none] Twyford Herts ??
Louisa Beaumont Wife Mar 44 Annuitant Wanstead Essex
Mary D Beaumont dau Unm 20 Twyford Herts ??
William Beaumont son 12 Scholar Dalston Middx
Mary Selby Mother-in-Law Widow 74 Annuitant Bishop Stortford Herts


Looking for the family in 1841 thanks.

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Some things don't fit.

2x Mary one born 1830 and one born 1836? That does not fit with age in 1851 census. An error in the bio with birth year as 1836? Mary 8 years older ??

1851 census middle initial D.

Entry from Transcription of Madras Marriage Indexes 1851 - 1870
William T Brereton & Mary Q Beaumont
Prefix N/2 Vol 45 Folio 201 C7/17 LDS Film 521853 IOR Reference Z/N/2

FS - with transcription errors
Name: William Thomas Brerechow Or Brerechonn
Spouse's Name: Mary Dunce Beaumont
Event Date: 15 Sep 1864
Event Place: Kurnool, Madras, India
Father's Name: Thomas Brerechow Or Brerechon
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Beaumont
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Batch: M000602


Willoughby Thomas BRERETON c. 1 Aug 1838 Steeple Morden, Cambridge
Thomas & Louisa
Batch: C073151
 
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I've looked at the images of the original entries, there are two.
One is for a marriage at Christ Church, Mount Road, Madras between William Thomas Brereton and Mary Quince Beaumont. Both of full age. He's a bachelor and she's a spinster. His father Thomas Brereton, hers Charles Beaumont. Married 15/9/1864, both residing Kurnool.

The other one is in Kurnool
William (crossed out replaced by Willoughby) Thomas Brereton and Mary Quince Beaumont both with all the same details

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Thanks Emeltee.

So D is an error for Q in the census.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Walter Henry Beaumont
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 May 1837
Father's Name: Charles Beaumont
Mother's Name: Louisa Wilson Beaumont
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers
[Charles gives abode as Dalston; Occ: Factor]


Children have mother's name as Mary Louisa. One daughter named Mary Louisa Annie.

Henry Willoughby c. 25 Dec 1867 Medomsley, Durham
Willoughby Thomas BRERETON & Mary Louisa
Batch: C000692

The age in the census fits the 1830 bap with name as Mary Louisa. Bio has 1836.

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With her mother's name being Louisa then Mary Louisa makes sense. I can understand how Louisa could be mistranscribed as Quince but the images of the marriage definitely said Quince.

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Grandmother is Mary

Louisa Wilson Selby
birth: 13 Jun 1806 Middlesex
parents: Prideaux Selby & Mary


1851 census is clearly Mary D daur U 20.

Death in Queensland
1941/B51910 Brereton Henry Willoughby - Willoughby Thomas - Mary Louisa Beaumont


An image of the 1830 bap to confirm dob if we are lucky?

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Baptised Twyford 27 Dec 1830 Mary Louisa dau of Charles and Louisa Wilsin Beaumont abode Twyford occ Miller

That's the entry in the Church register

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PS British India Office baptisms has Henry Willoughby 1867 Mary Louisa Annie 1868 and Charles William Francis 1874 all baptised in India. Can't find Thomas Willoughby or Ada Margaret. So I don't quite understand the 1867 baptism in Medomsley
 

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I have found the following deaths in India

Thomas Willoughby Selby Brereton died 19 May 1867 of Cholers aged 1 yr 10 mths and 9 days son of Willoughby Thomas and Mary Louisa Brereton

Ada Margaret Brereton died 24 Mar 1872 dau of Willoughby Thomas and Mary Louisa Brereton aged 6 mths 3 days

Charles William Francis Brereton died of a fever 8 May 1875 aged 9 mths. parents Willoughby Thomas and Mary Louisa

Mary Louisa Brereton died 28 May 1893 aged 55, wife of Colonel Brereton

Willoughby Thomas Brereton, Colonel Indian Army died 10 April 1915 aged 76

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Thanks Emeltee.

I assumed most of the deaths listed in the bio were in India but it's good to confirm that and to have extra details.

I'm not sure about a few things.

Births Sep Qtr 1865
BRERETON Thomas Willoughby Selby Cuckfield 2b 139

1865 - 1867 in England ?

I'll resume tomorrow.

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Should you be interested in his career he joined 10 Oct 1857, was made a Lieutenant 17 Feb 1860, a Captain 10 Oct 1869, a Major 10 Oct 1877, Lieutenant Colonel 10 Oct 1883 and finally Colonel 10 Oct 1895.

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Thanks Emeltee.

I had these bits.

Captains in the Madras Staff Corps from Hart's Army List, 1873.
Willoughby BRERETON

Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912
General Text: Surname: Brereton
Given Name: Willoughby Thomas
Birth Date: 15 June 38
FIRST COMM: 10 Oct 57
DATE RANK: 10 Oct 83
RANK: Colonels in receipt of Colonel's Allowances
COMPANY: British Officers of the Indian Army
REMARKS: --
Page #: 76

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I've re checked the entry and it definitely says 55. However mistakes can be made by both the informant and the person writing down the info. As everything lse fits with the family I personally would accept it as the correct death. Perhaps someone has misread a numeral when copying from notes into the document.

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I'm not sure which bit is wrong Emeltee.

Year of birth 1836 in the bio is not calculated from age at death. Other dates in the bio are correct so it would be odd just one was wrong.

If baptism and census are correct then dob in bio is wrong.

Willoughby died years after Mary. Did she pretend to be younger so age difference was not seen to be 8 years?

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Perhaps someone has misread a '0' as an '8'. Looking at some of the figures written in the various Censuses this is a possibility. Otherwise you may be right about dumbing down the age gap. The entries for the marriage just say 'of full age' meaning over 21 so no help there. I think we sometimes just have to accept that mistakes are made.

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Yes, Emeltee, all sorts of errors are made along the way.

Middle name Quince ??

I've looked again and I can't find a Twyford to fit this:

Mary Louisa Beaumont
christening: 27 Dec 1830 St Michaels Bishops Stortford, Hertford
Charles Beaumont & Louisa Wilson
Baptised Twyford 27 Dec 1830 Mary Louisa dau of Charles and Louisa Wilsin Beaumont abode Twyford occ Miller

That's the entry in the Church register.
In a 1837 baptism occupation is listed as factor.

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Thanks Emeltee.

Census has Twyford. Must be a very small place.

Found a photo of H W.

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Yes.

1901
RG13 Piece 935 Folio 102 Page 38
Civil Parish: Hove
County: Sussex
Registration District: Styning
Sub-RD: Shoreham
Address: 94 Lansdowne Place
[Transcribed as Buxton but could read Brereton on image]
Henry W Buxton boarder 34 Captain Army born India

Arrived in Australia in 1908.

The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866 - 1939) - Saturday 18 January 1919 p.17
Social Gossip
A pretty wedding was celebrated at St. Nicolas' church, Sandgate, on December 30, when Corporal H. Willoughby Brereton (late of the original 9th Battalion, A.I.F.) was married to Miss M. C. Browne (daughter of Mr. L. Browne, Sandgate). The Rev. S. Baggaley officiated. The guests were entertained at breakfast, and later Corporal and Mrs. Brereton left for their home in Brisbane.

Death in Brisbane

9 May 1941/B51910 Brereton Henry Willoughby - Willoughby Thomas - Mary Louisa Beaumont

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