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Hi there

I'm looking for information about my grandmother Mary Kate Willis who was born in Upton on Severn in either 1898 or 1899. I cannot find information about her anywhere. She married Thomas Haydn Mathias from Llanelli (written Llanelly at that time) in 1917 and they had three children Mary Margaret Mathias, Lilian Mathias and my Dad William Haydn Mathias.

I have checked census records, cannot find a birth certificate, cannot find a thing about her and as my Dad died four years ago, there is no one left to ask.

Does anyone have any ideas where else I could look?

Thank you so much.
 

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Marriages Dec Qtr 1917
Mathias Thomas H - Willis Llanelly 11a 2113
Willis Mary E - Mathias Llanelly 11a 2113


Births Mar Qtr 1899
Willis Mary Kate Upton 6c 321


Mary does not seem to be in the 1911 census index.

No change of family name between 1899 and 1917. Perhaps her family was not in England in 1901 and 1911.
 
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Hi Libby,

This looks like the entry for Mary Kates birth to send for her certificate:

Name: Mary Kate Willis
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Upton on Severn
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 321

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Hi Libby,
Could this be her and family in 1901 - Llanelly Wales - Piece 5089, Folio 155 Page 6

William Willis 30 b Malvern Worcestershire a Grocers warehouseman
Ann wife 28 b Llanelly Carmarthenshire Wales
Stanley son 4 b same
Kate daug 2 b Malvern Worcestershire
at 1 Funnel or Tunnel Rd.

1911 they are still in Wales at 31 Gilbert Place - Llanelly

William Willis 40 b Malvern now a domestic gardner
Annie wife 38 married 16 yrs and 3 children
Kate daug 12 has born Llanelly
Stanley son 14 b same
Mary daug 6 b same
with a visitor Albert Edward Denny from Liverpool and a boarder Albert Wilkins

Possible marriage for William & Ann June qtr Llanelly 1895 William Willis to Ann Owen

Death for Mary Kate Mathias b 1 Dec 1898 in Llanelly Wales Sept Qtr 1970 age 71 - Vol 8a Page 1409
Thomas Haydn Mathias b Oct qtr 1896 Llanelly Wales - died age 69 Dec qtr 1965 Llanelly Wales - Vol 8a Page 331

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Libby,
FreeBMD births show with Mother's name of Willis

Mary M Mathias b June qtr 1918 Llanelly Vol 11a Page 2197

William H Mathias b June qtr 1924 Lanelly Vol 11a Page 2227

No Birth recorder for Lilian but a Death for a Lilian M Mathias age 0 March qtr 1920 Llanelly Vol 11a page 1328

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Thomas Haydn left £67.00 to Mary Kate Mathias
probate 7 Jan 1967, died Dec 1965 Llanelly
residing 1 Prendergast St


1901
William Mathias 38 Fishguard
Mary A 32 Llanelly
Eliza A 10 ''
Thomas H 5 ''
Mary J 3 ''
David S 7m ''
Kitty Cetnacote 56 widow serv


1911
William 46 Fishguard
Mary Ann 43 Llanelly
Eline Ann 20
Thomas Hyder 14
May 13
Stanley 10
Benj 8
Gwladys 7

Married 23yrs 8 children 6 alive


William Mathias married Mary Ann Lewis (1869-1913) on 4 Dec 1889
 
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Thanks very much to all of you. Just after writing what I did on the forum, I found that my aunt had actually been born in Llanelli (Llanelly is the old spelling), so they weren't in Malvern as long I was told they had been. The whole family is dead complicated with half-siblings and someone marrying a cousin or a second cousin or something. No clue!

Thanks for the probate info, I hadn't even thought of looking that up. My Dad was an older Dad, so I didn't get to meet my paternal grandparents, which is a shame, but checking out the census of when my granddad was little gave me a bit of a clue what kind of life he had. It's all very interesting.

Lillian was born between my Dad and his sister and died the day she was born. I got that birth certificate sent to my Dad a few years back, because he just knew that there had been a sister before he was born, but he had no other information about her.

Thanks again to everyone for all your help!

I will check out this probate stuff for other people. Hadn't even thought of looking there before.
 

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