Betty SUTTON

[DaveHam9]

James ARNOLD & Betty SUTTON
2 Nov 1834 Leigh, Lancashire, England
Batch: M005393
Not on Lancs OPC

Marriage: 10 Feb 1862 St. Thomas, Golborne, Lancashire, England
Simon Ball - (X), 46 Collier Widower of Golborne
Betty Arnold - (X), 45 Widow of Golborne
Groom's Father: William Ball, Collier
Bride's Father: Thomas Sutton, Labourer
Witness: Charles Forster, (X); Isaac Taylor
Married by Banns by: Thos Thornton
Register: Marriages 1849 - 1880, Page 89, Entry 178
Source: From Leigh Archives

Looking for Betty in 1841 and 1851.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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Possible for 1851

RD: Leigh
Address: Possibly Twist Green
Ref: Piece: 2204; Folio: 182; Page: 18
James Arnold 39 [Hand loom weaver]
Betty Arnold 37
John Sutton 17 son
Ann Arnold 15 dau
Thomas Arnold 11 son
[All b. Culceth]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So a son born before 1834 marriage.

Can't find a birth reg for son Thomas with mmn Sutton.

Dave

 

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1841
RD: Leigh
Add: Twiss or Swiss Green
James Arnold 25 [Silk weaver]
Betty Arnold 25
John Arnold 7, Ann Arnold 4, Thos Arnold 1
[All BiC]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I should have also said 1861 with the second marriage in 1862.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find a birth reg.

Thomas Arnold
Residence Place:
Winwick, Lancashire, England
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
1840
Christening Place:
WINWICK, LANCASHIRE
Birth Date:
1839
Father's Name:
James Arnold
Mother's Name:
Betty

 

[DaveHam9]

John Sutton
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
14 Dec 1833
Christening Place:
LEIGH,LANCASHIRE
Mother's Name:
Betty Sutton

 

[DaveHam9]

ARNOLD, ELIZA - SUTTON
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in LEIGH UNION Volume 21 Page 585

Not there in 1851.


ARNOLD, ELLEN - SUTTON
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 175

Can't find any others.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Deaths Jun Qtr 1855
Arnold James Leigh 8c 97

Age 47

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

I should have also said 1861 with the second marriage in 1862.

Not found Betty yet, but there is a Simeon Ball, widower - RD: Leigh. Ref: Piece: 2799; Folio: 12; Page: 18

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I have Simeon in all census.

Baptism: 21 Dec 1817 St Luke, Lowton, Lancashire, England
Simeon Ball - [Child] of William Ball & Margaret
Born: 29 Nov
Abode: Golborn
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Jno. Pennington, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1834, Page 45, Entry 354
Source: Original Parish Register

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Elizabeth Arnold
1861
Event Place:
Culcheth, Lancashire
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Parish Of Newchurch
Registration District:
Leigh
Gender:
Female
Age:
45
Marital Status:
Widowed
Occupation:
Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household:
Lodger
Birth Year (Estimated):
1816
Birthplace:
Culcheth, Lancashire
Page Number:
7
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
2801 / 105

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Sep Qtr 1886 BALL Elizabeth 71 Warrington 8c 86

 

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Oh! She's using the Sunday best name

1861:
RD: Leigh
Address: Twist Green
Ref: Piece: 2801; Folio: 105; Page: 7
James Sutton 36 Martha Sutton 34 Thomas Sutton 10 James Sutton 8 John Sutton 5 Hannah Sutton 2
Elizabeth Arnold 45 lodger [b. Culcheth. Ag lab]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Burial 6 Feb 1889 Simeon BALL 72 Golborne St Thomas

Any burial for Elizabeth thanks.

Dave

 

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Any burial for Elizabeth thanks.

Wigan, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1979:
Elizabeth Ball
Age: 71
Burial Date: 11 Sep 1886
Burial Place: Ashton-in-Makerfield, St Thomas, Lancashire
[Abode: Penny Lane, Haydock]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The right death and burial ??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Elizabeth Ball
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1881
Event Place:
Warrington, Lancashire, England
Registration District:
Warrington
Residence Note:
Marsh House Lane
Gender:
Female
Age:
65
Marital Status:
Married
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1816
Birthplace:
Cheshire, England
Page Number:
51
Registration Number:
RG11
Piece/Folio:
3796/74
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role *** Age Birthplace
George Ball Head Male 64 Warrington, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ball Wife Female 65 Cheshire, England
Mary Alice Ball Daughter Female 23 Warrington, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth T Ball Daughter Female 27 Warrington, Lancashire, England
John Trevor Grand Son Male 4 Warrington, Lancashire, England
George Trevor Grand Son Male 2 Warrington, Lancashire, England
Henry Benion Lodger Male 40 Cheshire, England
Daniel Miles Lodger Male 22 Windsor, Berkshire, England

 

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The right death and burial ??

Dunno, Dave.. Just assumed post #13 was correct!

Geoff