Birth and/or Baptism.

[DaveHam9]

William about 1 year old and baptised same day Thomas would have been about 2.

Baptism: 5 Oct 1856 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Blakeley - [Child] of Thomas Blakeley & Janet
Abode: Eldon Place
Occupation: Iron Moulder
Baptised by: J. W. Welsh Asst. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1857, Page 80, Entry 639
Source: LDS Film 93887

Births Mar Qtr 1856
BRAKELEY William Liverpool 8b 7

1856 Birth in Sub-district of St. Martin - Registration District Liverpool in the County of Lancaster
No. 108 - Thirtieth November 1855 - 35 Eldon Street - William - Boy - Thomas Brakeley - Janet Brakeley formerly Neil - Iron Moulder - The mark of Janet Brakeley Mother 35 Eldon Street Liverpool - Eleventh January 1856 - John Simpson Deputy Registrar

Baptism: 5 Oct 1856 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Blakeley - [Child] of Thomas Blakeley & Janet
Abode: Eldon Place
Occupation: Iron Moulder
Baptised by: J. W. Welsh Asst. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1857, Page 80, Entry 640
Source: LDS Film 93887

 

[Guy]

Should think as Reg. became compulsory, some people would drop the Bapts.
Perhaps thinking 1 record was enough.

Ellie

There was a big push by the church to combat any fall off in baptisms, both the church and indeed some vicars refused to bury parisioners who had not been baptised.
There was quite a commotion pamphlets were produced urging people to baptise their children Civil Registration did not quietly slip into place in peoples lives.
Cheers
Guy

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
RG9 Piece 2658 Folio 15 Page 30
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Eccl. parish: St. Aidans
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-RD: St. Martin
ED: 53
No of Schedule: 175
Address: 94 New Hedley St
Thomas Blackley Head Mar 30 Iron Moulder Ireland
Janet Wife Mar 30 Scotland
John son 8 Scholar Scotland
Thomas son 6 Scholar Liverpool
William son 4 Scholar Liverpool
Isabella dau 2 Liverpool
Archibald son 11wks Liverpool

 

[DaveHam9]

St. Martin 1837-1904 Liverpool STM 1894-1904

Only 1894- 1904 indexed to date on Lancs BMD.

Only one looks to have a good sample.

Much Woolton 1837- Liverpool MW 1837-1922

 

[Ellie7]

St. Martin 1837-1904 Liverpool STM 1894-1904

Only 1894- 1904 indexed to date on Lancs BMD.

Only one looks to have a good sample.

Much Woolton 1837- Liverpool MW 1837-1922

Have you tried
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html

Online Parish Clerks

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

I've looked Ellie and St. Martin is not on the list.

I have not emailed the Liverpool Record office.

I can't see any other email. No OPC for Liverpool Central.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

http://londonfamilyhistory.org/cata...e,+Liverpool&placeID=15297&keywords=St+Martin

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Looking for a birth reg in Sub-RD St Martin of Liverpool RD.

I have the baptisms at CofE St. Peter Liverpool.

I also have a copy of the birth certificate for a second brother also Sub-RD St Martin so I'm working for now hoping my great grandfather Thomas was the same.

The eldest John was born in Paisley. All the census have Thomas born Liverpool. I've looked in case he was also born in Scotland and can't find a birth there. John is 8 in 1861 so it looks like the family moved from Paisley to Liverpool 1853 or 1854. William born 30 Nov 1855 Liverpool so Thomas between John and William.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

If I've got it right, the Sub-RD of St Martin is in the Vauxhall district of Liverpool. The Parish church is St Martin in the Field and lancs.opc does have entries for that church. Eldon Street lies between Vauxhall Road and Scotland Road.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

I'm missing a birth reg. I have all the baptisms.

Thomas and William baptised the same day in 1856 at St. Peter's. Abode given as Eldon Place.

William's birth registered in Sub-RD St. Martin in 1856 and address given as 35 Eldon St.

1861 address in Sub-RD St. Martin was 94 New Hedley St.

I purchased a copy of a birth reg for a Thomas that was the only one I found in FreeBMD and turned out to be the wrong one.

I looked in the Lancs BMD site.

I cannot find a likelyThomas searching all names starting with B in the index for Liverpool for 1853-1856.

I looked further and they have no coverage for Sub-RD St. Martin for 1850s or 1860s.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Was the birth cert you sent for the one for Thomas Blekley Mar 1854 W. Derby 8b 357 or was it a different one?

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, that one Emeltee.

1854 Birth in the Sub-district of West Derby Registration District of West Derby in the County of Lancaster
No. 396 - Twenty-third December 1853 Poplar Grove West Derby - Thomas - Boy - Thomas Blekley - Alice Blekley formerly Boardman - Twine spinner - The mark x of Alice Bleckley Mother Poplar Grove West Derby - Thirteenth January 1854 - Richard Bradshaw Registrar

Marriages Jun Qtr 1850
BLAKELEY Thomas Manchester 20 622
BOARDMAN Alice Manchester 20 622

Dave