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Birth/Baptism of Lillian(e) Selina Stephens

ral91

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Hi, sorry for relying on your help, but I am so stuck at the moment. I have a Lillian Selina Stephens whose parents are as far back as I have been able to get on this line. I'm looking for her baptism and/or censuses as I can only find her in the 1891. These are the details I have for her:

Lillian(e) Selina Stephen(s)
b. 1868/9, Camberwell, London
Marriage - 8 May 1887 to Henry James Monks
Death: 20 Aug 1950, Bethnal Green, London


Parents - James Stephens Bootmaker
and Lillian S Stephen Capmaker (retired in 1891)

Cannot find them on Censuses while Lilliane Jnr was a child. Lilliane snr living with Lillian Jnr and Henry in 1891.

Any help would be really appreciated as I have exhausted my resources redf)

Ryan:)
 

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I've had a thought; would anyone be able to find Lilliane Jnr's birth in the BMD. That way I could order her birth cert, and get a maiden name. I've had a look but cannot find anything as of yet.
 

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Hi Ryan,

Maybe's here.

Selina Stephens
Year of Reg: 1867
Q of Reg: J-A-S
Dist: Camberwell
Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 622


Selina Stephens
Baptism
Est Birth: June 30th 1867
Bapt Date: 4 Oct 1867
Father': James Thomas Stephens . Occ. Shoemaker.
Mother: Selina Eleanor Stephens
Parish: Camberwell St George
Borough: Southwark

Living at 5, Dunham Terrace, Camden North.

There is also a James Stephens b.Dec.26th.1864 and a Elizabeth Rosa Stephens b.May 16th.1862. All baptised on the 4th Oct. 1867.

And Mary Anne Stephens b.21st May 1866. baptised at the same time.

Ther are also marriages for most fo the children.

Hope this helps.

Steve.:)
 
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for that. It would appear to be them. However, it's her and her mother's apparent change of name that's confusing the situation. Is there any correlation between 'Lilliane' and 'Eleanor'? If she did change it and this is her, then it would seem correct. Just swap her first name to middle.

Is there any significance to them all having been baptised in 1867?

With regard to the marriages of the children, does it list a Henry Monks for Lilliane/Selina?

Ryan:)
 

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Lelian Selina Stephens . Living at 11, Wilmot House (at time of marriage).
Age: 19
Est birth: abt 1868
Spouse: Henry James Monks .Occ. Sole seller.
Spouse Age: 20
Marriage Date: 08 May 1887
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father: James Stephens. Occ.Bootmaker.
Spouse Father: James Henry Monks. Occ. Coffee merchant(maybe, but deffo Merchant).

Witnesses - Elizabeth Monks + James John Jones.

Steve.:)
 
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Lelian Selina Stephens . Living at 11, Wilmot House (at time of marriage).
Age: 19
Est birth: abt 1868
Spouse: Henry James Monks .Occ. Sole seller.
Spouse Age: 20
Marriage Date: 08 May 1887
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father: James Stephens. Occ.Bootmaker.
Spouse Father: James Henry Monks. Occ. Coffee merchant(maybe, but deffo Merchant).


Steve.:)
Yeah, that's what I had for her. Wonderful, so at one point she changed her name from Selina and adopted Lilian. Thanks so much Steve. Haven't made any progress on that line in almost a year! Thank you to Dave, also.

Ryan :)
 

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