Boer War Queries

[juliejtp]

Hi Jaytee,

Whether this will be of any help The Angelo Boar War site, you might find something.

http://angloboerwar.com/index.htm

 

[jaytee]

Thank you Julie
I've had a look at the site you suggested; nothing yet but I will keep searching.
jaytee

 

[SJS]

Hi there,
I have just started to reseach my G-Grandfather and I have been told he served in the Boer War. ( I am assuming that this is correct) His name was Henry Shorter and was born in Maidstone in 1878 and was poss living in Surrey at the time of his enlistment. I know he survived the war and emigrated to Australia in 1910. Any info greatly received. Thanks
Steve

 

[spothe]

Izabel, I have tried to find some more information on a relative of mine and was wondering if there is any help you could put my way? He was John William Oxley, b. Hexam 26 July 1881. He was killed at Ypres in WW1 but he served with the local Yeomanry and he was an orderley to Lord Roberts at Bloemfontein(?) and to Lord Kitchener at Paardenburg. He was also a POW to the Boers for a time. If you could let me have any information at all I would be most grateful,

Thanks in anticipation,

Paul

 

[canuck]

After much searching, finally managed to get my grandfather's name from a supplementary WO97. However, have no idea what it means?

All it says is, "94570,James Charles,Bryant,1900-13,RA,6327"

I'm assuming 94570 is his regimental number, the name is correct as James Charles, Bryant, and understood he'd served until 1902, know that RA stands for British Army, but have no idea what the number 6327 represents?

This is the link where the information originated:

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/wo97supp.htm

Could someone please tell me how to proceed? Apparently the number 6327 is not a valid # that National Archives accepts to get the information I'd like about my grandfather's Boer War service. I am making very slow progress, but like the turtle, forward is the direction I'm pointed.

 

[duckweed]

Hi I'm looking to see if George Bullivant was in the Boer War. He was in the East Yorks Regiment and was born in Leeds in 1872. I believe he returned to Leeds after his tour of duty.

 

[canuck]

Managed to figure out what the numbers meant. Turns out the original records were misfiled.

According to the UK national archive site, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=6&CATID=695265

his records, which apparently were among a group misfiled, will be digitally scanned under record #WO/6327 as a subset of WO97, provided they progress at their present rate, his attestation records should be available as early as July 2010. Good thing no-one’s in a hurry to access these records.

I’m assuming that once the attestation records are digitally available that it’s a simple matter to access their service records that actually provide some information about their service record. In the meantime, now that I have his service number, with my mother’s signed permission, it may be possible to get his service record without having to wait for the attestation records to be scanned. On the other hand, individuals who weren't officers, may not contain much in their records?

However, am very encouraged that it seems the mystery is solved. My grandfather really did serve in the Boer War. It's just a matter of time before we find 'some' of his movements.

Perhaps others at this site will find this information helpful if they've been having difficulty finding their ancestors military records for this period in England's history.

Did find my grandfather's WWI Canadian attestation records with no difficulty and also those of four of my uncles, one of whom arrived immediately prior to the outbreak of WWI.

 

[Minden]

After much searching, finally managed to get my grandfather's name from a supplementary WO97. However, have no idea what it means?

All it says is, "94570,James Charles,Bryant,1900-13,RA,6327"

I'm assuming 94570 is his regimental number, the name is correct as James Charles, Bryant, and understood he'd served until 1902, know that RA stands for British Army, but have no idea what the number 6327 represents?

This is the link where the information originated:

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/wo97supp.htm

Could someone please tell me how to proceed? Apparently the number 6327 is not a valid # that National Archives accepts to get the information I'd like about my grandfather's Boer War service. I am making very slow progress, but like the turtle, forward is the direction I'm pointed.

I would say that RA stands for Royal Artillery, and his regimental number was 6327. The other number may be a page number, although I'm surprised your source doesn't tell you. This ties in with him joining the Indian Army later (bored/unemployed/escaping a disgruntled shopgirl??).

Don't forget that about 2/3 of the WW1 service records were destroyed in 1940 by the Luftwaffe; as your man was serving in the Indian Army in 1914, (although I can't find a likely Medal Information Card on Ancestry for him), they may well have been with that lot, so your chances of finding his full service records are slim.

Try the Long Long Trail, or the Great War Forum if you really want to play with the experts on regimental numbering; they may have Royal Indian Army experts too, but I've never needed to ask.

 

[Geraldine]

If you could help me with some information on James Sullivan born 1885 who died in the boar war that would great. The only information is his Father was William and Mother Lucy. They lived in Richmond Upon Thames Middlesex.
Keeping my figers crossed as I have tried but failed to get anywhere with this one.

 

[purplehippy]

I went down to the national archives yesterday to search the WO97 file but unfortunatly didnt find any record of my ggrandad who served in the Royal Welsh Fusiliers during the 2nd Boer War but couldnt find him

Does anyone know if there is anywhere else that I can find his record

 

[juliejtp]

Hi

The link is to the Royal Welch Fusiliers Museum. Hope this is of help.
I thought a mistake had been made with the spelling but it it Welch.

http://www.rwfmuseum.org.uk/

 

[purplehippy]

Hi Julie

I will check it out

The name has changed from Welsh to Welch several times in their history, just to make it more complicated to search

 

[markeve]

Hello ,
Can anyone help me please.I am researching my grandad James O'Brien. I found the following in The Wrexham Advertiser dated Saturday March 10th 1900, North Wales Volunteer Service of The Welsh Fusiliers. They embarked on the Donne Castle at Southampton on February 11th and landed at Capetown on Monday last. Then following in the paper was a list of men who had come forward to join up ,my grandad was one of these men. He was listed as James O'Brien (23) 11 Mount St Wrexham, a Tailor (Religion) Roman Catholic and Single.
I have already contacted The Royal Welsh Fusiliers archives and they could not help me, have also visited the Ruthin Record Office and again nothing, I don't know of any where else to look for help, that is until I found your Forum yesterday. I am hoping with your help I could find his service history and regimental number and any of the campaigns that the regiment were involved in during this period.

Thank you Eve

 

[apm1181]

do you have any info on boer prisoners sent to malta?. my gg grandfather was in the royal warwickshire's stationed in malta. some reasearch i have done suggests his regiment were guarding prisoners form south africa their

thanks
Andy

 

[Pat2207]

Hi Izabel
Im trying to find some information on my gt grandfather, William Roche who lived in Newcastle West, Co Limerick, Ireland, but may have been born in Cork County, Ireland.
My family tell me that William fought in the Boer War, but I have no other information on him.
Would be grateful if you can tell me the best place to get further information, on the internet, as am currently living in France.
Many thanks
Pat

 

[smiler]

Hi there,
I'm trying to find my great grandfather military history prior to 1914 where he was a CSM with the Cheshire Regt.
I also know that he was in Cork, Ireland between 1909 and 1913 as my grandmother was born in Ireland in 1913 but her next eldest sibling was born in 1909 in Warrington.
His name is Frederick Sweeney and sadly he was killed on the Somme in 1916........I've been trying to find this information out for my father for nearly 10 years now and would appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks
Lynn

 

[DMK]

Hello,

I've been in contact with the Inniskillings Museum who confirmed that my Grandfather James Mackell aka James Mackill served as a volunteer in the 3rd Battalion Inniskilling Fusiliers, who were posted to South Africa. I've only just started looking into this, but can anyone tell me any more information on the 3rd Battalion's role in the conflict. I know very little about this part of our history.

So far I've only been able to access information on the 1st and 2nd Battalions, but very little on where the 3rd were situated.

I have James' service record from WW1 when he served in the Royal Irish Rifles 1st Garrison Battalion, who were in India in 1915.

One of my cousins lives in South Africa, so it would be interesting to be able to tell him where our Grandfather ws located, so I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me out here.

Kind regards

Denise

 

[Petegro]

Hi there,

I am newly researching Alfred Lester Thring. He was born in Ladysmith, his father, Alfred, was a British settler.

I was very fortunate to get a lovely article from an aunt about this man and his envolvment in the Boer war. He was Field Cornet Thring. The confusing thing is that his brother Frederick Lester Thring fought in the Border mounted rifles, for the British. His fathers brother was also a Frederick Lester, not sure at times who's who?

I believe AL Thring first joined the Maritzburg Rifles, then the Natal Royal Rifles and took part in the Zulu was against Cetewayo. He later commanded the Kroonstad Commando's and later, not only had to lay seige on his birthplace Ladysmith, but also on his own brother.

Would you have any other information on this man and his family, I would be very interested to learn more of him? Thank ypou.

Peter

 

[gibbo]

Hi there,

I am newly researching Alfred Lester Thring. He was born in Ladysmith, his father, Alfred, was a British settler.

I was very fortunate to get a lovely article from an aunt about this man and his envolvment in the Boer war. He was Field Cornet Thring. The confusing thing is that his brother Frederick Lester Thring fought in the Border mounted rifles, for the British. His fathers brother was also a Frederick Lester, not sure at times who's who?

I believe AL Thring first joined the Maritzburg Rifles, then the Natal Royal Rifles and took part in the Zulu was against Cetewayo. He later commanded the Kroonstad Commando's and later, not only had to lay seige on his birthplace Ladysmith, but also on his own brother.

Would you have any other information on this man and his family, I would be very interested to learn more of him? Thank ypou.

Peter

Hi Peter,
This link maybe of interest to you. If you scroll down to the section on
CEREMONIAL OX HORN it mentions who may possibly be one of your Thring's and has a little info on him. It maybe info you already know but a interesting little read all the same.

http://www.tokencoins.com/article/apr07.htm

I found this also which might be of some interest on the South African National Archives site.. link below

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?201104231026044032DF06

.

 

[gortonboy]

Hi there,
I'm trying to find my great grandfather military history prior to 1914 where he was a CSM with the Cheshire Regt.
I also know that he was in Cork, Ireland between 1909 and 1913 as my grandmother was born in Ireland in 1913 but her next eldest sibling was born in 1909 in Warrington.
His name is Frederick Sweeney and sadly he was killed on the Somme in 1916........I've been trying to find this information out for my father for nearly 10 years now and would appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks
Lynn

hi,,when and where was he born ?