Building of the Australian Railway

thecelticbard · 1 April 2016

My wife's former husband had two uncles who went to Australia and worked on the above. Is there any information as to who worked on it, where they lived. My wife actually met one of them who returned to the UK for a visit. Their surname was Dingle.
It's just a matter of curiosity really.
Many thanks to you all.

p.risboy · 1 April 2016

Brian, bach.

Have any dates or christian names to go with Dingle.

Steve.

thecelticbard · 2 April 2016

Bore Da, boyo,

One brother was called Jack, my wife remembers he married a Mormon from when they visited. The other brother apparently after finishing their work went 'walkabout' for about 20 years before he got back in touch with Jack.

Thanks, merci, danke, shukran & diolch!

DaveHam9 · 2 April 2016

Marriages end abt 1920 or 1940 or 1965 depending on which State.

Electoral Rolls on-line end at 1980.

Deaths from BDM end abt 1985. If within the last 7 years notices might be found in newspapers.

Railways built in the last 50 years in NW Western Australia for iron ore, western NSW and central Queensland for coal.

A very difficult task to find them.

Dave

thecelticbard · 2 April 2016

Yes, it's a good candidate for mission impossible, but I'm told that Jack Dingle and his brother emigrated to Australia before WWI - could be to avoid being conscripted into the Army is one thought - and came from Hale in Cornwall.
Jack's wife could have been called Alice.

To have worked on building the railroads in Australia would have required fitness and stamina and the ability to look after ones-self, certainly not a job for the faint-hearted.

DaveHam9 · 2 April 2016

Before WWI makes it a bit easier re finding details in indexes once we know what State.

Dave

DaveHam9 · 2 April 2016

Any middle names for Jack?

One marriage in NSW stands out but no idea if the right one

13987/1922 DINGLE JOHN H G - DAVIS ALICE R - REDFERN

Can't see any marriage notice in the newspaper.

DINGLE John Helson Gillis Death notice 12JUN1939 Death 57 at Wollongong Sydney Morning Herald 13JUN1939

Ruled out by this NSW birth:

8713/1882 DINGLE JOHN H G - EDWARD HELSON - MARY ANN - WATERLOO

Dave

DaveHam9 · 3 April 2016

Arrived in Australia just before WWI.

Any more details that may help?

Rough date for return to England?

Rough date for last contact?

Any idea when and where they died?

Dave

horse · 4 April 2016

Hi Brian

Something to ponder..

FreeBMD:
Births Q2 1899
Dingle Jack
Truro
5c, 126

No Jack.. But may be related.
1901
Town: Hayle
County: Cornwall
Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Phillack
ED: 3; Piece: 2245; Folio: 44; Page: 15

Arthur Dingle 30 [b. Truro. Labourer at explosive works]
Anna J Dingle 29
Eliza J Dingle 9
Eora A Dingle 7
Harry E Dingle 4
Arthur T Dingle 2
Edith M Dingle 11/12
[Spouse and offspring all b. Hayle]

Geoff

rupert · 4 April 2016

horse said:

Births Sep 1896
Dingle Harry Ewart Redruth 5c 217

DEATH
24795/1968 DINGLE HARRY EWART ARTHUR ANNIE WOLLONGONG
DINGLE Harry Ewart Death notice 14MAY1968 Death 71 at Mount Keira, late of Enmore Sydney Morning Herald 16MAY1968

Death notice includes mention of 1 brother [John Francis] of Guildford, N.S.W & 4 sisters [can't see marriages for sisters in Australia]

----------------------------------------------------
A possible for Jack

Births Mar 1903
Dingle John Francis Redruth 5c 193

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN F
Last name DINGLE
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1903
Occupation LABOURER
Departure year 1923
Departure day 10
Departure month 4
Departure port LONDON
Destination port BRISBANE
Destination BRISBANE
State Queensland
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name ESPERANCE BAY
Ship official number 140148
Ship master's first name R
Ship master's last name MACKENZIE
Shipping line COMMONWEALTH GOVERNMENT
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship registered tonnage 13850
Number of passengers 724
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

MARRIAGE - Queensland
1926 C583 Alice Ruth Watts John Francis Dingle

DEATH
22933/1985 DINGLE ALICE RUTH WILLIAM JOHN ELIZABETH JANE
DINGLE Alice Ruth Death notice 31AUG1985 Death 83 late of Guildford Sydney Morning Herald 02SEP1985

Alice's husband name In Memoriam is JACK & death JOHN FRANCIS

Can't see a death yet for John Francis DINGLE [after 1985]

Rupert

rupert · 4 April 2016

1911

Name: John Francis Dingle
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hayle, Cornwall
Civil Parish: East Phillack
Search Photos: Search for 'East Phillack' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Late Office, Company's Yard, Copperhouse, Hayle, Cornwall
Occupation: school
Registration district: Redruth
Registration District Number: 299
Sub-registration district: Phillack
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 14017
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Dingle 40
Annie Jane Dingle 39
Harry Ewart Dingle 14
Arthur Thomas Dingle 12
Edith Mary Dingle 10
John Francis Dingle 8
Florence Beatrice Dingle 5
Eileen Dingle 2/12

NOTE sisters mentioned in Harry's death are Edith, Florence & Eileen. [Cora possibly married by 1911]

Rupert

horse · 4 April 2016

rupert said:

There is a tree that has this [not validated]

"Death
John Francis Dingle (1903-1995)
5 December 1995 Sydney, New South Wales, Austalia"

Geoff

rupert · 5 April 2016

horse said:

I can't confirm that death, can't see John or Alice at Rookwood.

Rupert

rupert · 5 April 2016

horse said:

Possibly another sibling coming out to Australia.

Births Mar 1892
Dingle Eliza Jane Redruth 5c 221

Marriages Mar 1908
BANFIELD Thomas Redruth 5c 326
DINGLE Eliza Jane Redruth 5c 326

1911
Name: Eliza Jane Banfield
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Phillack, Cornwall
Civil Parish: Gwinear
Search Photos: Search for 'Gwinear' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Shaft Downs, Gwinear
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 3
Estimated Marriage Year: 1908
Registration district: Redruth
Registration District Number: 299
Sub-registration district: Phillack
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 115
Piece: 14021
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Banfield 23
Eliza Jane Banfield 20
Arthur Thomas Banfield 2
Edward James Banfield 1

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) ELIZA J
Last name BANFIELD
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth year 1892
Occupation HOUSEWIFE
Departure year 1915
Departure day 14
Departure month 7
Departure port LONDON
Destination port ROCKHAMPTON
Destination ROCKHAMPTON
State Queensland
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name WAIPARA
Ship official number 119128
Ship master's first name J S
Ship master's last name HUTCHINSON
Shipping line QUEENSLAND LINE
City LONDON
Ship destination port BRISBANE
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet 7319
Ship registered tonnage 4058
Number of passengers 287
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
CHILDREN - Arthur 6, Edward 5, Harry 3

DEATH
37586/1964 BANFIELD ELIZA JANE ARTHUR ANNIE JANE LIVERPOOL
BANFIELD Eliza Jane Death notice 04OCT1964 Death 72 late of Carramar Sydney Morning Herald 05OCT1964

Rupert

horse · 5 April 2016

rupert said:

Nor me.. strange, given the service at Rookwood

Geoff

rupert · 5 April 2016

horse said:

30 March 1911 - Cornishman - Penzance, Cornwall, England

Marriage - Cora Adeline Dingle / William Henry Phillips

Ref brother Harry death notice 1968 N.S.W [Cora Phillips]

Rupert

horse · 5 April 2016

Looks as though the other siblings stayed in England.

Geoff

rupert · 5 April 2016

Can't see Harry Ewart in Rookwood index.

UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Name: Harry Ewart Dingle
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
Regimental Number: 202406
Previous Units: 6/DCLI. 202406. Pte, 1/5. DCLI. 202406
Other Records: Search for 'Harry Ewart Dingle' in other WWI collections
War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany): Search for 'Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry' in the WWI War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany) collection
War Diaries (Gallipoli): Search for 'Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry' in the WWI War Diaries (Gallipoli) collection

Rupert

DaveHam9 · 5 April 2016

Not this one ??
John Francis Dingle (1895 - 1970)
Born on 24 June 1895
Passed away on 28 August 1970
Aged 75 years
Albany Creek Memorial Park

The Rookwood Crematorium is run by a different Trust to the Cemetery. You have to rely on 'HeavenAddress' for any possible memorials.

The SMH on-line Archive ends at Feb 1995.

Dave

rupert · 5 April 2016

DaveHam9 said:

Not this one ??
John Francis Dingle (1895 - 1970)
Born on 24 June 1895
Passed away on 28 August 1970
Aged 75 years
Albany Creek Memorial Park

The Rookwood Crematorium is run by a different Trust to the Cemetery. You have to rely on 'HeavenAddress' for any possible memorials.

The SMH on-line Archive ends at Feb 1995.

Dave

John [Jack] death after 1990.

Rupert

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