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Births Jun Qtr 1861 BURTINSHAW John - Preston 8e 526 mmn BOWDEN


Looking for the right marriage and for the family in 1851, 1861 and 1871.

If the marriage is the 1845 one then I can't find any children born before 1852. ??

If the following are the right children then I still can't find the family.

Elizabeth Ann 1852, Ellen 1855, George 1857, John 1861, Mary Hannah 1862 and William Henry 1866.

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John married in NSW in Dec 1884.

I don't have his arrival in Australia.

NSW Death 10004/1944 BURTINSHAW JOHN BOWDIN 83 YRS LISMORE LISMORE * 19 May 1944
 

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Did Elizabeth nee Bowden die and William remarry before 1871 ?

Or the 1845 marriage is the wrong one but the right one can't be found.
 
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William Burtinshaw
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Preston, Lancashire
Registration District Preston
Residence Note Ripon St
Occupation Joiner Machine Mill
Birthplace Stockport, Cheshire
Page Number 25
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4234/69
William Burtinshaw Head M 53 Stockport, Cheshire
Hannah Burtinshaw Wife F 52 Stockport, Cheshire
Elizabeth Ann Burtinshaw Daughter F 25 Preston, Lancashire
John Burtinshaw Son M 18 Preston, Lancashire


Don't know which ages to believe - may be right or way out in 1881.
 
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Marriages Sep Qtr 1844
LINDSAY David Preston 21 463
BOWDEN Hannah Preston 21 463

Marriages Sep Qtr 1852
BURTINSHAW William Preston 8e 511
LINDSAY Hannah Preston 8e 511
 

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Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: Thomas Bowden
mother: Hannah

Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: John Bowden
mother: Mary


Marriage: 2 Sep 1844 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
David Lindsay - 23, Hatter, Bachelor, Saul St
Hannah Bowden - (X), 22, Trimmer, Spinster, Saul St
Groom's Father: Late Lawrence Lindsay, Rope Maker
Bride's Father: James Bowden, Hatter
Witness: Christopher Carolin; Ann Carolin, (X)
Married by Banns by: E. Walker Curate
Register: Marriages 1843 - 1845, Page 156, Entry 311
Source: LDS Film 93993
 

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Northern Star – Mon 22 May 1944 - MR. JOHN B. BURTINSHAW
Mr. John Bowden Burtinshaw died at his residence, 57 McKenzie Street, Lismore, on Friday, on his 83rd birthday. The late Mr. Burtinshaw was born at Preston, England, in 1861 and soon after coming to Australia in 1889 joined the staff of the Post and Telegraph Department, in which he served until he retired in May, 1926. At the time of retirement he held the position of Inspector in the Engineer's Branch. He is survived by four sons and three daughters, Messrs. William S. Burtinshaw (Sydney), Stanley Burtinshaw (Young). John E. Burtinshaw (Youg), George B. Burtinshaw (Sydney), and Mrs. Dr. Stephens (Sydney), Mrs. Dr. Carl Furner (Newcastle) and Miss Bena Burtinshaw (Young). Mr. Burtinshaw's wife predeceased him 30 years ago. Mr. Burtinshaw was buried in the North Lismore cemetery after a service in St. Andrew's Church of England, conducted by the Rev. R. L. Sanders. The pall-bearers were Messrs. J. Harder, J. W. Irvine, E. Venn, E. C. Rankin, W. J. Gray and T. P. Winterton. The funeral arrangements werer carried out by Will Riley and Son. – Buried C of E portion of the North Lismore Cemetery.

His wife was Elizabeth Cottee – marriage 1884 NSW
Her death – The Richmond River Express – Tue 17 Feb 1920
The death is reported from Sydney of Mrs. Burtinshaw (nee Miss Elizabeth Cottee, daughter of the late Spencer Cottee), and sister of Mr. S. M. Cottee, of Lismore. Deceased was the wife of Mr. John Burtinshaw, line inspector of The Telegraph Department, and had been ailing since before Christmas from an affection of the heart. Deceased was an old resident of the Richmond, and died at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. Stephens, wife of Dr. Stephens, of Rose Bay, Sydney. In addition to a husband, she leaves a family of four sons and three daughters.

Name Elizabeth Cottee
Birth Date Abt 1861
Birth Place Ballarat East, Victoria
Registration Year 1861
Registration Place Victoria, Australia
Father Spencer Cottee
Mother Mary Ann Lamb – Died 21 Sept 1936 Sydney – Orbit on Trove
Registration Number 13351

The Methodist – Sat 10 May 1924
MARRIAGE.
FURNER—BURTINSHAW.—April 12, 1924, at the Baptist Church, Bathurst Street, Sydney, by Rev.W. Cleugh Black, assisted by Rev. Andrew Holliday, B.A., LL.B., Dr.Carl Russell Furner, son of Mr. and Mrs. C. W. Furner, of Goulburn, to Miss Edith Elizabeth Burtinshaw, daughter of Mr. and the late Mrs. J. B. Burtinshaw.

4590/1924 FURNER CARL R – BURTINSHAW EDITH E - SYDNEY

The Daily Telegraph – Sat 1 May 1915
STEPHENS – BURTINSHAW – On April 17th at the St. Andrew’s Summer Hill by the Rev A Langley F G N Stephens F.R.C.S younger son of the late C N Stephens of Harwood Clarence River to Bertha eldest daughter of J B and Mrs Burtinshaw

5263/1915 STEPHENS FREDERICK G N – BURTINSHAW BERTHA E – ASHFIELD

John B & Elizabeth’s children
BURTINSHAW WILLIAM Spencer 33179/1886 JOHN B – ELIZABETH – LISMORE

BURTINSHAW BERTHA Ellen 6498/1888 JOHN – ELIZABETH – PETERSHAM – married Stephens

BURTINSHAW LILY Robina 29478/1892 JOHN B – ELIZABETH – PETERSHAM – never married – died 1967 Petersham

BURTINSHAW JOHN Ernest 27388/1894 JOHN B – ELIZABETH – PETERSHAM – has file on NAA

BURTINSHAW EDITH Elizabeth 4235/1899 JOHN B – ELIZABETH – LISMORE - married Furner

BURTINSHAW GEORGE Boyd 22203/1903 JOHN B – ELIZABETH – LISMORE

Stanley Bowden Burtinshaw – no Birth records for 1890 – died 1949 Young
 

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Possible, surname transcription? User submission = Burtinshaw.

1871
RD: Preston
Piece: 4208; Folio: 8; Page: 15
[Add: Green Bank]
William Bortinsham 48 [b. Stockport, Cheshire. Joiner & builder]
Hannah Bortinsham 48 [b. Bredbury, Cheshire]
Elizabeth Ann Bortinsham 18
Ellen Bortinsham 15
John Bortinsham 9
[Offspring all b. Preston. Lancs]

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This gives a DoB..

NSW, Public Service Lists, 1858-1960:
John Burtinshaw
Birth Date: 19 May 1861
Appointment Date: 12 Feb 1889
Appointment Place: New South Wales, Australia
Book Year: 1899
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If the following are the right children then I still can't find the family.

Elizabeth Ann 1852, Ellen 1855, George 1857, John 1861, Mary Hannah 1862 and William Henry 1866.
Possible..

GRO:
BURTINSHAW, HANNAH
mmn = BOWDEN
1851 Q1 PRESTON UNION
Vol 21, Page 718

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Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: Thomas Bowden
mother: Hannah

Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: John Bowden
mother: Mary


Marriage: 2 Sep 1844 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
David Lindsay - 23, Hatter, Bachelor, Saul St
Hannah Bowden - (X), 22, Trimmer, Spinster, Saul St
Groom's Father: Late Lawrence Lindsay, Rope Maker
Bride's Father: James Bowden, Hatter
Witness: Christopher Carolin; Ann Carolin, (X)
Married by Banns by: E. Walker Curate
Register: Marriages 1843 - 1845, Page 156, Entry 311
Source: LDS Film 93993
This would support the above..

1851
RD: Preston
Piece: 2265; Folio: 389; Page: 10
[Add: 15 Berry st.]
William Bastinshaw 28 [b. Stockport. Machine joiner]
Elizabeth Bastinshaw 32 wife [b. Stockport]
Mary Bastinshaw 12 dau [b. Denton, Lancs]
Hannah Lindsey 28 S-i-L [b. Stockport. Hat trimmer]

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Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

So it was correct.

Marriages Jun Qtr 1845
Birtenshaw William Preston 21 452
Bowden Elizabeth Preston 21 452


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Can't find a baptism for the right Hannah.

Other marriages don't seem to be on Lancs OPC.

John must have arrived 1881 - 1884.

Marriage 4985/1884 BURTINSHAW JOHN B - COTTEE ELIZABETH - TEMORA * 22 Dec 1884

1903 NSW Electoral Roll - THE CLARENCE - DALMORTON
BURTINSHAW John Bowden, Dalmorton, post and telegraph officer


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Yes, can only find these two but marriage has father as James.

Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: Thomas Bowden
mother: Hannah

Hannah Bowden
1823 Stockport, Cheshire
father: John Bowden
mother: Mary
Catch you later Geoff.

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Can't find a baptism for the right Hannah.
Doesn't appear to be one with father = James, hatter.

The 1823 bap. with parents = John & Mary has John = hatter and abode = Bredbury.

In 1871 Hannah says she is b. Bredbury.

Could be just an error with with James/John or maybe there was a family of Hatters named Bowden in Cheshire at that time.

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Ages in 1881 are out - clearly written but lower than expected.

Deaths Sep Qtr 1886
Burtinshaw William 61 Preston 8e 410

Deaths Mar 1891
Burtinshaw Hannah 65 Ashton 8d 420


The Hannah Burtenshaw aged 61 in 1891 in Cheadle is single and a retired School Mistress.
 
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