Captain Norman Kirkby Peace

[duckweed]

I don't suppose anyone can find this man's Obituary or his army service record.

He was born in Sheffield in 1877 to a family of Steel magnates. He seems to have been made a Captain in the 1st world war and was in Egypt and France. Don't know the regiment exactly but it says Cyclists.

He died in Oxley in Wolverhampton in 1940.

I don't know a lot of detail of his life after the 1911 census in Sheffield so any info would be nice. I'm doing this for a friend who doesn't have the resources.

 

[gibbo]

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 18 OCTOBER, 1917.

T./Lt. (A./Capt.) Norman Kirkby Peace, A..
Cyclist Corps.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/30340/supplements/10710/page.pdf

There is a few mentions of him in the London Gazette
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/


Still looking for him :biggrin:

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Duckweed

I presume you have seen this, but it may interest others

http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/jungle/index4a10.html

dave

 

[gibbo]

He had a enjoyable evening out in Feb 1899 :2fun::2fun: He was in a concert and played the part of Earl of Mountcastle :biggrin:

Let me know if you want a copy of the article DW

 

[duckweed]

Any info you have. Its for the Sheffield University people. They said they didn't know why Norman would have a Lion cub. Did a quick search and found that Norman was in New York when Bostock the Lion owner was there and in London when Bostock was there so possibly a stronger link than they realised. Possibly Norman's links with the Show people is why his family don't mention him in the will.

 

[duckweed]

He seems to have married an American Evelyn L Bornemann in 1920. She was only 19 and from New York.

That might account for scandalised family.

 

[DaveHam9]

On Ellis Island there was also a Norman Kirkby Peace, a resident of Sheffield arriving 1906 for "various tours" and staying in New York at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel and going on to Yosemite Park.

I have not registered to use the Ellis Island site - HERE

 

[duckweed]

Yes I have him arriving back on the White Star Line at Liverpool.

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, DW. That's all I can find by googling.

 

[duckweed]

There is another Evelyn L Bornemann who would be just as controversial in 1920 but don't think its her. Her father is German and works in Manchester. But she would be older than him by about 12 years so think American connection makes more sense. Wonder if she was part of Carnival people?

 

[leefer]

http://files.usgwarchives.net/ia/butler/obits/ble-con.txt

A death date on here for Evelyn......remember WW1 was still fresh in peoples minds around then and it is a German sounding name

Think this one could be your Red Herring.

 

[leefer]

http://www.robwalsh.com/familytree/individual.php?pid=I834&ged=walsh.ged

Probably old hat:2fun:

 

[gibbo]

Hi DW,

You may already have this .. It has the death date for Norman's first wife. Some other Peace's on there as well. Jolly thing wouldnt let me post the link for the file I have kept the file so if you want i can email it to you.

Sheffield Telegraph Obituaries 1850 - c. 1970

PEACE Charles Found guilty of murder and executed 25 Feb 1879
PEACE Charles Former partner in Peace & Sons 14 Apr 1894
PEACE H W F Industrialist 26 Jan 1951
PEACE Hannah Widow of Charles Peace 26 Dec 1891
PEACE Hugh Kirkby of W K & C Peace 10 Dec 1906
PEACE Joe Arthur of Cocker Brothers 17 Oct 1932*
PEACE Joe Frederick Vicar's warden at the Cathedral, of Minna Road 31May 1927
PEACE John of John Peace & Sons, file manufacturers 14 Jun 1931
PEACE Norman K (Mrs) Daughter of the late (Mr) W S Laycock 28May 1918
PEACE Thomas Hobson of Arthur Balfour & Co, Finnish vice consul 18 Aug 1965

There is a order form on the site this come from if a copy of the notice is wanted. With a fee of course ... £12.00

 

[duckweed]

If not the American I still don't like the Lancastrian because I don't see a link there. Perhaps there is a third Evelyn L Bornemann. But as you say whoever she was she definitely had a German name. Not likely to be popular in 1920.

 

[gibbo]

Scope and content
Captain Norman Kirkby PEACE.
The York and Lancaster Regiment.
Covering dates 1914-1919
Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Former reference (Department) 31831
Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English

 

[duckweed]

Thanks. At least we know he wasn't a professional soldier now though he kept his rank in a directory in 1938.

What I am looking for is some prior connection with Bostock before he took the Lion cub because I think this was a setup and suspect that he handed the lion cub back.

The guy from the University said that Bostock used to stage all sorts of stories so as to attract public interest including daring a suffragette to talk about suffrage in a cage full of lions.

 

[leefer]

Thanks. At least we know he wasn't a professional soldier now though he kept his rank in a directory in 1938.

What I am looking for is some prior connection with Bostock before he took the Lion cub because I think this was a setup and suspect that he handed the lion cub back.

The guy from the University said that Bostock used to stage all sorts of stories so as to attract public interest including daring a suffragette to talk about suffrage in a cage full of lions.

Bet that Lion was scared senseless:2fun:

Incidently if you google Edith New.....nice info on Swindons own Sufferagette if you like that kind of thing.

 

[duckweed]

Sheffield Uni are impressed with our findings. They are still looking for surviving relatives but I only found 2 daughters. Have looked in family trees but although they mention Norman they don't even mention his children.

Re Evelyn. I suppose it could be Manchester woman though she is older as there doesn't appear to be any more children. The 2 surviving daughters were from his first marriage.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

USA - 1910

Manhatten Ward 19 New York

Adolph Bornemann head age 39 occ book binder/factory born New York
Fathers birhtplace Germany - Mothers birthplace Germany
Adelaide Bornemann wife age 39 born New York
Fathers birthplace Germany - Mothers birthplace Germany
Mortimer son age 12 born New York
Evelyn L dau age 9 born New Yotk
William R son age 5 born New York

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

Evelyn is still with her parents in 1915 and 1920.