Catherine Ann McDermott

[Bottlabroon]

GRO index gives mothers maiden name McIntay.

Thanks both. I've looked into this Catherine before. I'll probably end up getting a certificate to double check but pretty sure that that this particular Catherine turns up in the 1861 census with her father Patrick and not John.

 

[Bottlabroon]

Just to update this, I now have the birth certificate for the Auckland, Durham 1851 birth (mmn McIntay) and the father is indeed Patrick McDermott and not John as I thought. This family stayed very stable around Crook, Durham.

So back to square one in trying to find the birth or census records pre 1871 of Catherine Ann McDermott, father John McDermott, bricklayer.

First name(s) Catharine Anne
Last name McDermott
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1852
Baptism date 14 Nov 1852
Residence Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Place Newcastle on Tyne
County Northumberland
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name McDermott
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name U
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

 

[juliejtp]

Another child born to John and Bridget.

Christening 4 Apr 1857 - Newcastle Upon Tyne
Alice McDermet
Father John McDermet
Mother Bridget Campbell

 

[Bottlabroon]

Another child born to John and Bridget.

Christening 4 Apr 1857 - Newcastle Upon Tyne
Alice McDermet
Father John McDermet
Mother Bridget Campbell

Thanks Julie. That helps enormously with a MMN.

 

[juliejtp]

That Alice may be the Alice that died in 1859 Newcastle Upon Tyne. Surname McDermid (a possible error in surname), though recorded on freebmd and the GRO site as McDermid. She was aged 2.

 

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That Alice may be the Alice that died in 1859 Newcastle Upon Tyne. Surname McDermid (a possible error in surname), though recorded on freebmd and the GRO site as McDermid. She was aged 2.

The surname McDermid actually appears on Catherine’s marriage certificate so likely that’s how they thought to spell it.

 

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Can anybody find this family in 1861. Tried every variation of spelling I can come up with to no avail
I've been through 376 households in the same street in 1861 and sadly there were not there then.
I need to try and tie Catherine in to this family and unfortunately she was working elsewhere as a servant for this 1871 census. I know it's the family I'm looking for as Bridget reverts to her maiden name of Campbell when she ends up in the local workhouse in 1891.


1871
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status *** Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John McDermot Head - Male 36 1835 - Ireland
Bridget McDermot Wife - Female 37 1834 - Ireland
Edward McDermot Son - Male 17 1854 - Howden, Northumberland, England
M E McDermot Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Northumberland, England
Alice McDermot Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Northumberland, England
Elizabeth McDermot Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Northumberland, England
John Burns Visitor - Male 15 1856 - Northumberland, England
John McDermot Son - Male 10 1861 - Northumberland, England

First name(s) John
Last name McDermot
Relationship Head
Marital status -
*** Male
Age 36
Birth year 1835
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth county as transcribed IRELAND
Birth place Ireland
Occupation -
Full address Stephenson Street, Willington, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
House name -
Street Stephenson Street
Parish Willington
County Northumberland
Country England
Registration district Tynemouth
Sub district Wallsend
Enumeration district 6
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 5110
Folio 101
Page 27
Schedule 140
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

The family maybe under the surname of Mc Aumond in 1861 on the familysearch site. Actually I‘m quite sure this is the family. The actual census image needs to be looked at.

 

[juliejtp]

See Here on the familysearch site.

 

[juliejtp]

They are under McAumond on another site And on Annestry under McAermond. Just realised father down as James. This family are in the right area.

 

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They are under McAumond on another site And on Annestry under McAermond. Just realised father down as James. This family are in the right area.

Excellent. Many thanks Julie. Ancestry wasn't even bringing them up as McAermond in the searches. Got them on FMP under McAumond though.

 

[juliejtp]

Did you look at the census image?

 

[Bottlabroon]

Did you look at the census image?

Yes, definitely think it was was given as McDermond or something similar sounding. Can't really understand the James but certainly John in other census returns.

 

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status *** Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Mc Aumond Head Married Male 32 1829 Labourer lead...factory Ireland
Bridget Mc Aumond Wife Married Female 26 1835 - Ireland
Catherine A Mc Aumond Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Edward Mc Aumond Son - Male 6 1855 - Wallsend, Northumberland, England
John Mc Aumond Son - Male 1 1860 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Catherine A
Last name Mc Aumond
Relationship Daughter
Marital status -
*** Female
Age 8
Birth year 1853
Birth town Newcastle on Tyne
Birth town as transcribed NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
Birth county Northumberland
Birth place other England
Occupation -
Full address Huntleys Houses, Shields Road, Willington, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
House name Huntleys HousesStreet Shields RoadParish Willington
County NorthumberlandCountry England
Registration district Tynemouth
Sub district 1 Wallsend
Enumeration district 3
Ecclesiastical parish or district Willington
Family member last name Mc Aumond
Family member first name(s) John, Edward, Bridget, Catherine, James
Archive reference RG09Piece number 3835
Folio 67Page 8
Schedule 39
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland CensusCategory Census, land & surveys
Subcategory CensusCollections from Great Britain, England


Still no luck finding any kind of birth record for Catherine. Gut feeling is that this is the right family that Julie found in the 1861 census but any kind of birth record is proving elusive. The fathers name James doesn't worry me unduly as it's given correctly as John in 1871/81/91. I've managed to trace the GRO birth for Edward born in 1855 which was registered as McDormant but nothing for Catherine with a similar name.

If mother Bridget's age is correct on this 1861 census then she would only have been 17 or so when having Catherine (she was baptised 1852) and given she was born in Ireland I'm beginning to wonder if she was 'sent away' and the birth wasn't even registered or possibly even born in Ireland before leaving.... Maybe even registered in her maiden name Campbell which will be my next searches.....

 

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First name(s) Bridget
Last name Campbell
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1852
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ Bridget Campbell married one of these peopleThomas Forster, John McDermot
District Newcastle upon Tyne
District number -
County Northumberland
Country England
Volume 10B
Volume as transcribed 10B
Page number 139
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

Will order the marriage certificate and see what that throws up........

 

[juliejtp]

Catherines birth may not have been registered, even though registration started in 1837. They may not have realised that births needed to be registered. I have one with no children’s birth registrations, just christenings. Like you mothers maiden taken from marriage, mine was pre registration for the marriage.