Cecilia BLACK and Margaret BLACK

[DaveHam9]

Closest found so far

Margaret Willison
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Gender Female
Age 75
Birthplace Midlothian
Registration District Alloa
County Clackmannanshire

 

[barbarajoh]

Dave, you should get the marriage for Adam and Margaret. I see it is in Edinburgh and the Edinburgh OPR marriages can give a lot of extra information. You will prob get if Adam was in the army and Mgt's father's occupation.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

I changed my user name and got a batch of credits a few days ago.

Now I have to try using the new site. :biggrin:

Sorry, there are no results for your search. First time I got the 1855 onwards.

KELTIE ADAM MARGARET WATSON/FR2348 (FR2348 ) 131 04/02/1802 685/1 530 45 Edinburgh

04/02/1802 KELTIE, ADAM (Church registers Old Parish Registers Records 685/1 530 45) Page 45 of 372
Adam Keltie soldier in the 4th Regt. of N. B. Militia New Greyfriars Parish and
Margaret Watson same Parish Daughter of the Deceased James Watson Publican Dalkeith

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Reference: WO 97/1240/93
Description:
ADAM KELTY
Born CULROSS, Perthshire
Served in Royal Artillery
Discharged aged 43
Date: 1826-1847
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Language: English
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

Reference: WO 69/116/77
Description:
Statements of Service, Royal Artillery [4 Battalion] Various Numbers.
This entry appears on opening 97; this number is imprinted at the top right of each opening. Openings 1 to 22 are an index that may contain additional information about the soldier.
Adam KELTY. Born Culross, Perthshire. Enlisted 1826 aged 22 years. Note: Transferred to 6 Company 1838.
Covering dates indicate enlistment year.
Date: 1826

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know about this one though

WO 69/587/544
Description:
Register of Deceased Soldiers and Next of Kin. Royal Artillery 5 Battalion.
Index of Deceased soldiers Folio 27 to 34. Registry of Next of Kin Folio 36 to 48.
This entry appears on folio 24v; this number is imprinted at the top outer edge of each folio.
Adam KELTY. Died 1857 in Liverpool. Note: Died of Sickness.
Covering dates indicate year of death.
Date: 1857

 

[DaveHam9]

WO 69/123/257
Description:
Statements of Service, Royal Artillery 5 Battalion Numbers 2979 to 3452.
This entry appears on opening 265; this number is imprinted at the top right of each opening.
Soldier's Number 3233: Adam KELTY. Born Petersfield, Hampshire. Enlisted 1853 aged 16 years.
Covering dates indicate enlistment year.
Date: 1853


4 generations of Adam.

Can't find anything on TNA on Adam born 1779.

 

[DaveHam9]

An example with less info.

Janet b. abt 1793 a sister of Adam b. 1779.

08/11/1818 ANDERSON ALEXANDER JANET KELTIE/FR1153 M ABERCORN /WEST LOTHIAN 661/00 0040 0229

Parish of Abercorn Page 100
1818
Anderson - Alexr. Anderson and Janet Keltie both in this Parish Procl. 8th Nov 1818

 

[DaveHam9]

WO 69/123/257
Description:
Statements of Service, Royal Artillery 5 Battalion Numbers 2979 to 3452.
This entry appears on opening 265; this number is imprinted at the top right of each opening.
Soldier's Number 3233: Adam KELTY. Born Petersfield, Hampshire. Enlisted 1853 aged 16 years.
Covering dates indicate enlistment year.
Date: 1853

How can that one fit?

Where is the marriage of Adam to Harriet?

Discharged from army 13 July 1847.

1851
HO107 Piece 1663 Folio 319 Page 12
Civil Parish: Carisbrooke
County: Hampshire
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub-RD: Newport
ED: 3k
No of Schedule: 40
Address: Parkhurst Prison
Adam Kelty Head Mar 45 Asst. Warder Parkhurst Prison Scotland
Harriet Kelty Wife Mar 36 Petersfield Hampshire
Caroline Kelty Dau 11 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire
William Kelty Son 2 Deptford Kent

Births Jun Qtr 1839
Kelty Caroline Petersfield 7 112
Kelty Caroline Petersfield 7 _82

Caroline Kelty
Christening Date 30 Jun 1839 Petersfield, Hampshire
Adam Kelty & Harriett

 

[DaveHam9]

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 396/19 Folio 15 Page 25
Event Place Petersfield, Hampshire, England
Residence Note Chapel Street
Registration District Petersfield
Parish Petersfield
County Hampshire
William Philp M 25 Hampshire
Mary Philp F 25
Charles Philp M 5 Hampshire
Mary Ann Philp F 1 Hampshire
Ann Hobbs F 15 Hampshire
William Berryman M 50 Hampshire
Hannah Berryman F 50 Hampshire
William Berryman M 15 Hampshire
Louisa Berryman F 10 Hampshire
Adam Kelty M 4 Hampshire
Henry Bridger M 35 Hampshire
James Bridger M 35
Richard Hounsom M 15

 

[DaveHam9]

I now have an image of the 1841 census and it is almost impossible to read.

I notice that there is a 'correction' on A... of Kelty to Kelly. ???

I believe I can see a horizontal stroke so it is a 't' so I don't agree it's Kelly.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

Coming into this late so tell me if i'm on the wrong track.

James Watson
Spouse's Name Margaret Black
Event Date 19 Apr 1831
Event Place Kirkcaldy,Fife,Scotland

James Watson
Spouse's Name Margaret Black
Event Date 10 Apr 1831
Event Place Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse's Father's Name Black

Looks to me as same marriage ,perhaps banns were in Edinburgh ,and marr.in Kircaldy.

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

04/02/1802 KELTIE, ADAM (Church registers Old Parish Registers Records 685/1 530 45) Page 45 of 372
Adam Keltie soldier in the 4th Regt. of N. B. Militia New Greyfriars Parish and
Margaret Watson same Parish Daughter of the Deceased James Watson Publican Dalkeith

And
1861 Deaths in the Parish of Alloa in the County of Clackmannan:
Margaret Keltie, widow of Adam Keltie, died at 6 A.M. on 22 June 1861 at West Vennel, Alloa, age 80 yrs, father James Watson, labourer, deceased, mother Margaret Watson, maiden surname Black, deceased, senectus paralysis of leg - 4 weeks as certified by Robert Wilson M.D. Edin... Signature and qualification of informant - Cecilia Keltie, granddaughter, present. Death registered on 22 June 1861 at Alloa. Wm. D. Bruce, Registrar.

Daughter Margaret born abt 1782 - census has Pathhead.

So either a very late marriage or a different pair.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Some doubt the informant was correct with the maiden name as Black.

Also worries me it has Publican and labourer.

 

[Ellie7]

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 396/19 Folio 15 Page 25
Event Place Petersfield, Hampshire, England
Residence Note Chapel Street
Registration District Petersfield
Parish Petersfield
County Hampshire
William Philp M 25 Hampshire
Mary Philp F 25
Charles Philp M 5 Hampshire
Mary Ann Philp F 1 Hampshire
Ann Hobbs F 15 Hampshire
William Berryman M 50 Hampshire
Hannah Berryman F 50 Hampshire
William Berryman M 15 Hampshire
Louisa Berryman F 10 Hampshire
Adam Kelty M 4 Hampshire
Henry Bridger M 35 Hampshire
James Bridger M 35
Richard Hounsom M 15

They are different doors Philip and Berryman.Same page as Adam Kelly are the Berryman and the Bridger family with Adam in between

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

Adam Kelly
Gender Male
Christening Date 30 Apr 1837
Christening Place Petersfield, Hampshire, England
Father's Name William Kelly
Mother's Name Harriet


Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

I only took a copy of page 25 that Adam was on and can't see above Hannah Berryman to previous page.

I'm sure it is Kelty. A loop in the l and a stroke on the t.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Caroline Kelty
Christening Date 30 Jun 1839 Petersfield, Hampshire
Adam Kelty & Harriett

1851
HO107 Piece 1663 Folio 319 Page 12
Civil Parish: Carisbrooke
County: Hampshire
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub-RD: Newport
ED: 3k
No of Schedule: 40
Address: Parkhurst Prison
Adam Kelty Head Mar 45 Asst. Warder Parkhurst Prison Scotland
Harriet Kelty Wife Mar 36 Petersfield Hampshire
Caroline Kelty Dau 11 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire
William Kelty Son 2 Deptford Kent

 

[DaveHam9]

WO 69/123/257
Description:
Statements of Service, Royal Artillery 5 Battalion Numbers 2979 to 3452.
This entry appears on opening 265; this number is imprinted at the top right of each opening.
Soldier's Number 3233: Adam KELTY. Born Petersfield, Hampshire. Enlisted 1853 aged 16 years.
Covering dates indicate enlistment year.
Date: 1853

So, where are we with this?

It would make sense Adam had a son Adam making him Adam iv.

 

[DaveHam9]

Where is the death as Kelly or Kelty for Adam born 1837?

Where are William & Harriet Kelly in 1841?

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Adam Kelly
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Petersfield, Hampshire, England
Registration District Petersfield
Residence Note Chapel Street Chapel Green
Gender Male
Age 14
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837
Birthplace Petersfield, Hampshire
Page Number 36
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1677 / 163
William Berriman Head M 61 Selborne, Hampshire
Hannah Berriman Wife F 64 Liss, Hampshire
Louisa Berriman Daughter F 20 Buriton, Hampshire
Adam Kelly Grand Son M 14 Petersfield, Hampshire
Mary Southcott Grand Daughter F 5 Petersfield, Hampshire

I'll have bad dreams now. :biggrin:

Marriages ??

Adam Keltie & Harriet

William Kelly & Harriet