Census request for Arthur Richardson

[Sparrow]

Hello,

Can someone please look up Arthur Richardson b. 1893 in Clophill, Bedfordshire?

Thank you,
Julia

 

[Simon7]

1911 census

Name: Arthur Richardson
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clophill, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Kempston
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Government Barracks, Kempston
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Military Unit: Bedfordshire Regiment
Registration district: Bedford


In 1901

Name: Arthur Richardson
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male

Father: Octavius Richardson
Mother: Julia Richardson

Birth Place: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bedford St Paul
Town: Bedford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Name Age
Mary A Ward 58 - NAN
William Ward 31 - UNCLE
Octavius Richardson 34 - FATHER
Julia Richardson 34 - MOTHER
Arthur Richardson 8
William Richardson 5
Albert Richardson 2/12
Florence Richardson 13
Adeline Richardson 12
Mabel Richardson 10
Beatrice Richardson 3
Lavinia Richardson 2

 

[Simon7]

Arthur Richardson
in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name: Arthur Richardson
Birth Place: Clophill, Beds
Residence: Willian, Herts
Death Date: 17 Jan 1918
Death Place: Palestine
Enlistment Place: Bedford
Rank: Private
Regiment: Bedfordshire Regiment
Battalion: 5th. Battalion
Regimental Number: 201353
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Egyptian Theatre

 

[barbarajoh]

Fraud the one with Octavius is a different Arthur. Here he is in 1911. Having trouble finding yours in 1901 There are 4 in 1911 and only 3 in 1901which come up easily. Do you have his parents?

23 Harper St, Bedford 1911


Octavious Richardson Head Widower Male Butcher 45 1866 Hunts Huntingdon
William Ward Brother In Law Single Male Butcher 41 1870 Beds Bedford
Florence Richardson Daughter Single Female Milliner 23 1888 Beds Bedford
Adeline Richardson Daughter Single Female House Keeper 22 1889 Beds Bedford
Mabel Richardson Daughter Single Female Helper 20 1891 Beds Bedford
Arthur Richardson Son Single Male Upholsterer 18 1893 Beds Bedford
William Richardson Son Single Male Butcher 15 1896 Beds Bedford
Eleanor Richardson Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 Beds Bedford
Lavina Richardson Daughter Single Female School 12 1899 Beds Bedford
Albert Richardson Son Single Male School 10 1901 Beds Bedford
Elsie Richardson Daughter Single Female School 8 1903

 

[Simon7]

Fraud the one with Octavius is a different Arthur. Here he is in 1911. Having trouble finding yours in 1901 There are 4 in 1911 and only 3 in 1901which come up easily. Do you have his parents?

23 Harper St, Bedford 1911


Octavious Richardson Head Widower Male Butcher 45 1866 Hunts Huntingdon
William Ward Brother In Law Single Male Butcher 41 1870 Beds Bedford
Florence Richardson Daughter Single Female Milliner 23 1888 Beds Bedford
Adeline Richardson Daughter Single Female House Keeper 22 1889 Beds Bedford
Mabel Richardson Daughter Single Female Helper 20 1891 Beds Bedford
Arthur Richardson Son Single Male Upholsterer 18 1893 Beds Bedford
William Richardson Son Single Male Butcher 15 1896 Beds Bedford
Eleanor Richardson Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 Beds Bedford
Lavina Richardson Daughter Single Female School 12 1899 Beds Bedford
Albert Richardson Son Single Male School 10 1901 Beds Bedford
Elsie Richardson Daughter Single Female School 8 1903

I found the 1901 census

 

[barbarajoh]

Sorry Simon but I don't see it.

the Arthur with Octavius in 1901 is not the soldier in 1911.

The Arthur with Octavius is still with Octavius in 1911.

Or am I missing something?



Barbara

 

[Simon7]

Fraud the one with Octavius is a different Arthur. Here he is in 1911. Having trouble finding yours in 1901 There are 4 in 1911 and only 3 in 1901which come up easily. Do you have his parents?

23 Harper St, Bedford 1911


Octavious Richardson Head Widower Male Butcher 45 1866 Hunts Huntingdon
William Ward Brother In Law Single Male Butcher 41 1870 Beds Bedford
Florence Richardson Daughter Single Female Milliner 23 1888 Beds Bedford
Adeline Richardson Daughter Single Female House Keeper 22 1889 Beds Bedford
Mabel Richardson Daughter Single Female Helper 20 1891 Beds Bedford
Arthur Richardson Son Single Male Upholsterer 18 1893 Beds Bedford
William Richardson Son Single Male Butcher 15 1896 Beds Bedford
Eleanor Richardson Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 Beds Bedford
Lavina Richardson Daughter Single Female School 12 1899 Beds Bedford
Albert Richardson Son Single Male School 10 1901 Beds Bedford
Elsie Richardson Daughter Single Female School 8 1903

I am sure but you prob got more experience than me

 

[rupert]

1911 census

Name: Arthur Richardson
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clophill, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Kempston
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Government Barracks, Kempston
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Military Unit: Bedfordshire Regiment
Registration district: Bedford

1911 census & 1918 death seem to fit with Julia's request.

Can't see him in 1901.

Rupert

 

[rupert]

Bedfordshire Times and Independent 24 July 1931
Death of Octavius Richardson [known as Tom] a Butcher
Mrs. Richardson died 24 years ago
He lost two sons in the war [Arthur & William]


Wife Death
Name: Julia Richardson
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 41
Registration district: Bedford

Son Baptism
Name: Arthur Henry Richardson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1893
Baptism Place: Bedford, Bedford, England
Father: Octavius Richardson
Mother: Julia
FHL Film Number: 1042893
Reference ID: 12

[needs confirming]
Military
Name: Arthur Henry Richardson
Birth Place: Bedford, Beds
Residence: Bedford
Death Date: 9 Oct 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Manchester
Rank: Private
Regiment: Manchester Regiment
Battalion: 2 7th Battalion

Rupert

 

[horse]

Can someone please look up Arthur Richardson b. 1893 in Clophill, Bedfordshire?

If he was definitely b. Clophill, this looks to be the closest reg.
FreeBMD:
Births Q2 1894
Richardson Arthur
Ampthill
3b, 363

There are 2 other possibles in 1893.

Perhaps Julia can confirm the source of Arthur's birth.

Geoff

 

[barbarajoh]

There are 4 likely ones in 1911 Geoff so he is either not there in the 1901 mistranscribed or hiding under another name!:2fun: Two of them have initials but our Arthur doesn't seem to nor does the "Octavius Arthur"

And his soldier's effects say his mother was Mary. Doesn't give her last name.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/653186/RICHARDSON, A

RICHARDSON, A
Rankrivate Service No:201353
Date of Death:17/01/1918
Regiment/Service:Bedfordshire Regiment 1st/5th Bn
Grave Reference: K. 28. Cemetery:RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY

 

[horse]

There are 4 likely ones in 1911 Geoff so he is either not there in the 1901 mistranscribed or hiding under another name!:2fun: Two of them have initials but our Arthur doesn't seem to nor does the "Octavius Arthur"

And his soldier's effects say his mother was Mary. Doesn't give her last name.

Thanks, Barbara...

I would still be more happy to get his birth sorted first!

Geoff

 

[Sparrow]

Well, thank you Simon, Barbara, Rupert and Geoff for all the work you've done in trying to discover the Arthur Richardson I am searching for. I do appreciate the time you have all given and I am still trying to get my head around it all.

I really have very little information to go on other than his date of death 17/01/18 in Palestine; taken from the original photo of his grave. I don't know the names of his parents. The army registers of soldiers effects, (sent by Barbara) for Arthur mentions his mother, named Mary.

I agree with Barbara. The Arthur in 1901 & 1911 appear to be different people. I say that because in 1911 the Arthur I am looking for is in barracks and I do know he was in the army before WW1. Or could he have been entered twice on the census?

I shall have to go with the birth registration that Geoff has found Arthur Richardson 1894 in Ampthill.

The only reason I say that is because I know of a Sarah Jane Richardson b. 1892 Ampthill who was related in some way to Arthur but I don't know how.

Can a search in 1901 for Sarah Jane be done to try to establish a link?

Thank you all again. In anticipation of finding Arthur.

Julia

 

[horse]

Thanks, Julia..

It he was b. Clophill [RD = Ampthill] and he d. 17/01/18 then there is at least something to work from!

Geoff

 

[horse]

There is a Sarah Jane Richardson marrying a Lewis James Brewer 1909, she doesn't name her father, which would be normally recorded. That said, one of the witnesses is Arthur Richardson, the other is an Edith something.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Marriages Q2 1909
BREWER Lewis James
RICHARDSON Sarah Jane
Ampthill
3b 813

Geoff

 

[horse]

The marriage cert gives Sarah's age as 18y, so very possible..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Found a possible birth cert for Sarah, mother = Mary. I will PM you where you can download a copy.

Geoff

 

[Sparrow]

Thank you Geoff, download done.

Julia