CHANNON & PAKENHAM & NEWBERY families

[DaveHam9]

Thomas CHANNON b. ? d. ? married Anne PAKENHAM b. ? d. ? where ? when ? and their first son James Robert, of Royal Navy, was born in Gibralta in 1830. ?

Marriages Jun 1849
Channon James Robert Poplar 2 331
Woolcock Elizabeth Tregiga Poplar 2 331

Their deaths in Australia:

526/1870 CHANNON JAMES R AGE 40 YEARS DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY
1984/1890 CHANNON ELIZABETH T WOLLCOCK ALICE ADELONG

A son James CHANNON born about 1847 ? married Sarah J NEWBERY in 1875 in NSW and they lived in a house they called 'Pakenham'. James died in 1920 and Sarah in 1930, both in Hornsby, NSW.

Sarah's parents were Frederick William NEWBERY b. 1 May 1814 Hampton Court and Sarah BROWN b. 1815 ? d. 1847 NSW.

Frederick's parents were Thomas Newington NEWBERY b. abt 1779 Hampton Court and Ann Ledger ? Rice ? BENFIELD b. ? d. ? They married on 13 Oct 1805 St Bride's London.

I'd appreciate some help with the items marked '?'.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Sorry about the duplication. The original post gave an error and did not seem to post.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

If possible, I'd like a look up of Pallot's for that 1805 marriage. The NEWBERY family were very wealthy land owners in the Hampton Court area. Frederick William must have been the 'black sheep' of the family to have left all that to go to Australia.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hiu Dave,

There was nothing coming up on Pallots index for Thomas and Ann.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Thanks for looking. The parish and the time fall within the Index so perhaps the details of "St Bride, London' are incorrect.

The NEWBERY family around the time of Thomas Newington are very hard to trace. There is a huge amount of information about the property his parants John and Sarah owned.

The will of John Newbery (signed on 12 October 1832) establishes that he was an exceptionally wealthy man for his time. How he came by this fortune is the subject of a romantic and interesting tale that was passed down to Frederick William Newbery ,presumably by his father, Thomas Newington Newbery, eldest son of John Newbery.

John Newbery had built five cottages on land in the Hampton parish known as “Four Hills”; he left this land, with its “cottages, outbuildings, offices and yard gardens” to his son, James Newbery.
He left another Malthouse, outbuilding and yards “in the hamlet of Hampton Court” to his daughter, Deborah.

He left a Tenement and Malthouse across the river, at Kingston upon Thames in the county of Surrey, to his oldest son, Thomas Newington Newbery.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

Marriages Jun 1849
Channon James Robert Poplar 2 331
Woolcock Elizabeth Tregiga Poplar 2 331

They had a son James born about 1847 in Cornwall so the story goes, he died in NSW in 1920.

I looked in Hugh Wallis' Middle Name Index and didn't find anything of interest but I did find these in Cornwall which are very interesting:

1851
Name: James Channon
an Engineer
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: British Subject, Gibraltar
Civil Parish: St Blazey
County/Island: Cornwall

with the Trembath/Tremberth family in Foundry Row

and

1841 Penzance ED 6
Folio 52 Page 18

Alverton Lane,1,John Tregiga,55,,Victualer,In county,
,,Elizabeth Tregiga,,50,,In county,
,,Edward Woolcock,19,,Hair Dress,In county,
,,Ellen Woolcock,,15,,In county,
,,Elizabeth Woolcock,,14,,In county,

What do you think?

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

1851
Name: John Tregiga
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Gorran, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Madron
Town: West Ward
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Alverton St
Occupation: Annuitant
Condition as to marriage: M
Registration district: Penzance
Sub registration district: Marazion
ED, institution, or vessel: 4g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 176
Household Members: Name Age
John Wallish 36
Mary Ann Wallish 9
Amelia Bospidnick 24
John Tregiga 67
Elizabeth Tregiga 65 b. Perranuthnoe, Cornwall
Henry Hodge 40
Richard Kemp 21
James Ellis 58
John Williams 29
Jane Warren 20
Charlotte Warren 15
Alice Woolcock 21 b. 1830 Kea, Cornwall

1841
Name: Alice Woolcock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Perran Arworthal
Hundred: Kerrier
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Mylor
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Woolcock 40 housekeeper
William Woolcock 15 labourer
Alice Woolcock 10

JOHN TREGIGA
Spouse: ELIZABETH WOOLCOCK
Marriage: 3 Feb 1825 Madron, Cornwall, England

it looks like a Hopson (Hobson) WOODCOCK possibly a brother of the Elizabeth who married John TREGIGA married Alice WOODCOCK and that some of their children were possibly adopted by John & Elizabeth??

The Elizabeth aged 14 in the 1841 census must be the one who married James but I'm trying to explain her middle name of Tregiga.

What do you think?

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

That could be a possibilty, but to be honest I'm not sure (did get a bit confused along the way). Tregiga is a hard name to find, there are similar names, probaly a corruption of the name.

On the same census page as Alice Woolcock in 1841 there is a Nicholas Woolcock occ beer sellar with Susan and children would these be yours?.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

I don't know about Nicholas yet. What I really need to solve this is Alice's maiden name. It may be the same name WOOLCOCK as the father of her children. In 1841 two children are with her and three are with the TREGIGA family. Daughter Alice who was with her in 1841 is with the TREGIGAs in 1851.

It's certainly a very unusual name and may be a transcription error but it appears exactly the same way in the marriage reg:

Marriages Jun 1849
Channon James Robert Poplar 2 331
Woolcock Elizabeth Tregiga Poplar 2 331

The oldest of Alice's children with Hopson is Edward aged 19 in 1841.

Edward c. 6 Oct 1822 Kea, Cornwall, England
Father: Hobson WOOLCOCK Mother: Alice

No help there with her name.


Elizabeth WOOLCOCK was born about 1786 in Perranarworthal - not exactly what the census says but that has to be it. So I looked for her birth and for a sibling Hopson and:

Elizabeth WOOLCOCK - IGI
Christening: 17 FEB 1787 Perranarworthal, Cornwall, England

Hopson WOOLCOCK - IGI
Christening: 18 OCT 1795 Perranarworthal, Cornwall, England

And, Nicholas is a sibling - parents Hopson & Mary.

No sign of a marriage around the time of Edward's birth or at any time actually, between a Hopson (Hobson) WOOLCOCK and an Alice.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello juliejtp,

I'm calling this one complete.

Thanks.

Dave